Re: 1 of 23 peformance problems at 30 to 40 percent system load

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Hi

Today I was thinking about performance. Every system has its
properties e.g. acoustics has it's range within a bandwidth, light has
it's own oscillation range as well. These are all basically
mathematical systems whereby the
rule of performance can be applied. You might underload a system to
make certain properties visible like the amplitude of a wave. Within
finite computation with recursive precision you have to use the
harmonic oscillation
within the system.

Underload as a term would be defined as followig: An optimal system on
highest load shall slow down as underloading. In contrast as it
doesn't run at highest load it would be over-clocked.

In view of threads and the kernel, Linux would preferably be able to
handle more computation capacity on different loads. So concurrency
safety will be handled on compiler level.

About me, I don't code the kernel and don't have to deal with bits or
frequencies. Or at least in a more abstract manner, bits are the
things I switch on and off. Frequency is the synchronization rate I do
...
How ever I really like maths. I hope you enjoy the show:

http://gsequencer.org

By the way electrons are able to tunnel what isn't handled by the
specifications above.

Bests,
Joël Krähemann




On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Joël Krähemann <jkraehemann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi
>
> The problem was more related to a memory leak what slowed the down the computer.
> This is fixed for now. For me performance means you can do your work
> during a period in time.
> So good performance means stay in realtime.
>
> cheers,
> Joël
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:43 PM, linuxball <linuxball@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Joël,
>>
>> see remarks in the context below.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>> On 17.07.2015 22:05, Joël Krähemann wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> My name is Joël Krähemann, I'm developing:
>>>
>>> http://gsequencer.org
>>>
>>> and I'm using:
>>>
>>> Linux debian 4.0.5 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jul 11 16:32:49 CEST 2015 x86_64
>>> GNU/Linux
>>
>> From the output it seems that the kernel you are using is NOT a RT kernel
>> (otherwise "uname -v" should say "#1 SMP PREEMPT RT ..."). If you want to
>> use a RT kernel you should build the kernel with PREEMPT_RT_FULL defined.
>>>
>>> For now I encounter on my system performance problems at a load of 30
>>> to 40 % system load, all 8 virtual cpu's have same average load.
>>
>> What do you mean when you talk about "performance problems"? How do they
>> manifest?
>>
>>> * `chrt` to higher priority doesn't give wished throughput.
>>
>> As you certainly know in general a RT kernel has worse throughput (but
>> better response times / lower latencies for time critical threads) than a
>> generic kernel.
>>
>>> * `taskset` has ff as default.
>>> * `cpufreq-set -g performance` brings a little improvement for first
>>> seconds
>>>
>>> This is my CPU:
>>>
>>> Architecture:          x86_64
>>> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
>>> Byte Order:            Little Endian
>>> CPU(s):                8
>>> On-line CPU(s) list:   0-7
>>> Thread(s) per core:    2
>>> Core(s) per socket:    4
>>> Socket(s):             1
>>> NUMA node(s):          1
>>> Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
>>> CPU family:            6
>>> Model:                 58
>>> Model name:            Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz
>>> Stepping:              9
>>> CPU MHz:               3275.648
>>> CPU max MHz:           3700.0000
>>> CPU min MHz:           1200.0000
>>> BogoMIPS:              5387.58
>>> Virtualization:        VT-x
>>> L1d cache:             32K
>>> L1i cache:             32K
>>> L2 cache:              256K
>>> L3 cache:              6144K
>>> NUMA node0 CPU(s):     0-7
>>>
>>>
>>> GSequencer uses many threads but doesn't stay in realtime. What am I
>>> doing wrong? Or how to gain more Performance out of the system?
>>
>> How do you define performance? If you want more throughput then try a
>> generic kernel. If you want shorter response times (lower latencies) for
>> selected RT threads than use a RT kernel and tweak the thread priorities of
>> the respective user and kernel threads in the processing chain. Make sure
>> that you don't get priority inversion by using improper RT prio assignment,
>> e.g. participating IRQ threads from kernel should have higher or same RT
>> prio than threads processing data delivered by those IRQ threads. A good
>> example for audio applications is
>> http://subversion.ffado.org/wiki/IrqPriorities which shows priority settings
>> for JACK audio applications.
>>>
>>> I could imagine on my code side that vary frequency segmentation would
>>> bring better throughput. By modeifing AGS_THREAD_DEFAULT_JIFFIE,
>>> AGS_THREAD_MAX_PRECISION and related.
>>>
>>> But for now I search for documentation about linux kernel performance
>>> counters.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Joël Krähemann
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