On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:57:19PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:42:27 -0800 > "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:07:57PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:34:05 +0100 > > > Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > from looking at the code, it seems that the softirq is only raised (in > > > > the !base->active_timers case) if we have also an expired timer > > > > (time_before_eq() is true). This patch ensures that the timer softirq is > > > > also raised in the !base->active_timers && no timer expired. > > > > > > A couple of things. If there is no active timers, we do not need to > > > check the expired timers. That may contain a deferred timer that does > > > not need to be raised if the system is idle. This will just > > > re-introduce the problems that other people have been seeing. > > > > > > The bug that I found is that if there *are* active timers, but they > > > have not expired yet. Why is this a problem? Because in that case we do > > > not check if there is irq_work to be done. That means the irq_work will > > > have to wait till the timer expires, and since RCU depends on this, > > > that can take a while. I've had a synchronize_sched() take up to 5 > > > seconds to complete due to this! > > > > > > > > > The real fix is the following: > > > > > > timer/rt: Always raise the softirq if there's irq_work to be done > > > > > > It was previously discovered that some systems would hang on boot up > > > with a previous version of 3.12-rt. This was due to RCU using irq_work, > > > and RT defers the irq_work to a softirq. But if there's no active > > > timers, the softirq will not be raised, and RCU work will not get done, > > > causing the system to hang. The fix was to check that if there was no > > > active timers but irq_work to be done, then we should raise the softirq. > > > > > > But this fix was not 100% correct. It left out the case that there were > > > active timers that were not expired yet. This would have the softirq > > > not get raised even if there was irq work to be done. > > > > > > If there is irq_work to be done, then we must raise the timer softirq > > > regardless of if there is active timers or whether they are expired or > > > not. The softirq can handle those cases. But we can never ignore > > > irq_work. > > > > > > As it is only PREEMPT_RT_FULL that requires irq_work to be done in the > > > softirq, we can pull out the check in the active_timers condition, and > > > make the code a bit cleaner by having the irq_work check separate, and > > > put the code in with the other #ifdef PREEMPT_RT. If there is irq_work > > > to be done, there's no need to check the active timers or if they are > > > expired. Just raise the time softirq and be done with it. Otherwise, we > > > can do the timer checks just like we do with non -rt. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > diff --git a/kernel/timer.c b/kernel/timer.c > > > index 106968f..426d114 100644 > > > --- a/kernel/timer.c > > > +++ b/kernel/timer.c > > > @@ -1461,18 +1461,20 @@ void run_local_timers(void) > > > * the timer softirq. > > > */ > > > #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT_FULL > > > + /* On RT, irq work runs from softirq */ > > > + if (irq_work_needs_cpu()) { > > > + raise_softirq(TIMER_SOFTIRQ); > > > > OK, I'll bite... What if the IRQ work that needs doing is something > > other than TIMER_SOFTIRQ? > > Heh, don't let the timer part confuse you. The only reason that softirq > is relevant to irq_work is that is the softirq that we placed the > irq_work to be done. If you look at the code that is called for that > softirq (in -rt) you'll see: > > static void run_timer_softirq(struct softirq_action *h) > { > struct tvec_base *base = __this_cpu_read(tvec_bases); > > #if defined(CONFIG_IRQ_WORK) && defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT_FULL) > irq_work_run(); > #endif > > if (time_after_eq(jiffies, base->timer_jiffies)) > __run_timers(base); > } > > And we also have: > > void update_process_times(int user_tick) > { > struct task_struct *p = current; > int cpu = smp_processor_id(); > > /* Note: this timer irq context must be accounted for as well. */ > account_process_tick(p, user_tick); > scheduler_tick(); > run_local_timers(); > rcu_check_callbacks(cpu, user_tick); > #if defined(CONFIG_IRQ_WORK) && !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT_FULL) > if (in_irq()) > irq_work_run(); > #endif > run_posix_cpu_timers(p); > } > > > In vanilla Linux, irq_work_run() is called from update_process_times() > when it is called from the timer interrupt. In -rt, there's reasons we > can't do the irq work from hard irq, so we push it off to the timer > softirq, and run it there. > > That means if we have *any* irq work to do, we raise the timer softirq, > even if the work to be done has nothing to do with timers. As you can > see from the softirq timer code, in -rt, irq_work_run() is always > called, without having to look at any timers. OK, got it! Thank you for the tutorial. ;-) Thanx, Paul -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html