RE: [PATCH v4 1/4] dt-bindings: mfd: Document RZ/G2L MTU3a bindings

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> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] dt-bindings: mfd: Document RZ/G2L MTU3a
> bindings
> 
> On 11/10/2022 15:23, Biju Das wrote:
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] dt-bindings: mfd: Document RZ/G2L MTU3a
> >> bindings
> >>
> >> On 11/10/2022 10:55, Biju Das wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>  .../bindings/mfd/renesas,rz-mtu3.yaml         | 305
> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>  1 file changed, 305 insertions(+)  create mode 100644
> >>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/renesas,rz-mtu3.yaml
> >>>>
> >>>> This should not be in MFD. Just because some device has few
> >> features,
> >>>> does not mean it should go to MFD... Choose either timer or pwm.
> >>>
> >>> MFD is for multifunction device. This IP supports multiple
> functions
> >>> like timer, pwm, clock source/events. That is the reason I have
> >> added
> >>> here. MFD is core which provides register access for client
> devices.
> >>>
> >>> For me moving it to pwm or counter is not a big problem.
> >>> Why do you think it cannot be MFD?
> >>
> >>
> >> Because it makes MFD a dump for everything where author did not
> want
> >> to think about real device aspects, but instead represented driver
> >> design (MFD driver).
> >
> > Core driver is MFD, just provides resources to child devices and is
> > not aware of any real device aspects.
> >
> >>
> >> MFDs are pretty often combining unrelated features, e.g. PMICs
> which
> >> have wakeup and system power control, regulator, 32 kHz clocks, RTC
> >> and some USB connector.
> >
> > Here also same right? pwm, counter and clock are 3 unrelated
> features.
> > That is the reason we have separate subsystems for these features.
> 
> These are quite similar features of a similar piece of hardware.
> Sometimes called timer.
> 
> >
> >>
> >> Just because you will have clocksource driver, PWM driver and timer
> >> driver does not make it a MFD.
> >
> > MFD is multi function device.
> 
> No. MFD is a Linux subsystem name. Not a device type. The bindings are
> located in respective type.
> 
> > So are are you agreeing Clock source, PWM and timer are different
> > functionalities or not? If not, why do we have 3 subsystems, if it
> is
> > same?
> 
> Linux subsystems? We can have millions of them and it is not related
> to bindings.

OK.

> 
> 
> > Where do keep these bindings as there is only single "rz_mtu"
> bindings for these 3 different functionalities?
> 
> Again, focus on hardware not on Linux drivers. Hardware is called MTU
> - Multi-Function TIMER Unit. Timer.

OK
> 
> > pwm or counter or mfd?
> 
> Not MFD. I already proposed where to put it. Other Timer/PWM/Counter
> units are also in timer.
> 

I guess for counter/pwm maintainers, it is ok to model MTU3 as a single 
binding "rz-mtu3" in timer that binds against counter and pwm 
functionalities as well??

Cheers,
Biju




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