Hi Philippe, On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:16 PM Philippe Schenker <philippe.schenker@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 17:47 +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 05:28:30PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > This triggers on Renesas Salvator-X(S): > > > > > > Micrel KSZ9031 Gigabit PHY e6800000.ethernet-ffffffff:00: > > > *-skew-ps values should be used only with phy-mode = "rgmii" > > > > > > which uses: > > > > > > phy-mode = "rgmii-txid"; > > > > > > and: > > > > > > rxc-skew-ps = <1500>; > > > > > > If I understand Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet- > > > controller.yaml > > > correctly: > > > > Checking for skews which might contradict the PHY-mode is new. I think > > this is the first PHY driver to do it. So i'm not too surprised it has > > triggered a warning, or there is contradictory documentation. > > > > Your use cases is reasonable. Have the normal transmit delay, and a > > bit shorted receive delay. So we should allow it. It just makes the > > validation code more complex :-( > > I reviewed Oleksij's patch that introduced this warning. I just want to > explain our thinking why this is a good thing, but yes maybe we change > that warning a little bit until it lands in mainline. > > The KSZ9031 driver didn't support for proper phy-modes until now as it > don't have dedicated registers to control tx and rx delays. With > Oleksij's patch this delay is now done accordingly in skew registers as > best as possible. If you now also set the rxc-skew-ps registers those > values you previously set with rgmii-txid or rxid get overwritten. > > We chose the warning to occur on phy-modes 'rgmii-id', 'rgmii-rxid' and > 'rgmii-txid' as on those, with the 'rxc-skew-ps' value present, > overwriting skew values could occur and you end up with values you do > not wanted. We thought, that most of the boards have just 'rgmii' set in > phy-mode with specific skew-values present. > > @Geert if you actually want the PHY to apply RXC and TXC delays just > insert 'rgmii-id' in your DT and remove those *-skew-ps values. If you That seems to work for me, but of course doesn't take into account PCB routing. > need custom timing due to PCB routing it was thought out to use the phy- > mode 'rgmii' and do the whole required timing with the *-skew-ps values. That mean we do have to provide all values again? Using "rgmii" without any skew values makes DHCP fail on R-Car H3 ES2.0, M3-W (ES1.0), and M3-N (ES1.0). Interestingly, DHCP still works on R-Car H3 ES1.0. Note that I'm not too-familiar with the actual skew values needed (CC Mizuguchi-san). Related commits: - 0e45da1c6ea6b186 ("arm64: dts: r8a7795: salvator-x: Fix EthernetAVB PHY timing") - dda3887907d74338 ("arm64: dts: r8a7795: Use rgmii-txid phy-mode for EthernetAVB") - 7eda14afb8843a0d ("arm64: dts: renesas: r8a77990: ebisu: Fix EthernetAVB phy mode to rgmii") Thanks! Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds