Hi Uwe, On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:19 AM Uwe Kleine-König <u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 09:56:28AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:48 AM Uwe Kleine-König > > <u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Orthogonal to this patch I wonder what the intended behaviour for a pwm > > > is on suspend. Should it stop oscilating unconditionally? Or should it > > > only stop if the consumer stops it as part of its own suspend callback? > > > > I guess you mean system suspend, not runtime suspend, as the device is > > runtime-resumed when a PWM is requested? > > I admit that suspend (both system and runtime) is a bit of a black box > for me. So please take that into account when judging my statements. > > > Permitted behavior depends on the system: on R-Car Gen3 (arm64), PSCI system > > suspend will power down the SoC, so PWM output will stop for sure. > > > > On R-Car Gen2 (or R-Car Gen3 with s2idle instead of s2ram), the PM Domain > > code will turn of the PWM module's clock. Hence it will stop oscillating, unless > > you take special countermeasures, like for modules that need to stay powered > > for wake-up handling. > > Whatever "suspend" here means, I want to prevent that a stopping pwm is > a surprise for the consumer. So I think suspend should be inhibited if > the consumer might expect the pwm to continue running but the pwm is > about to stop. So if the suspend affects the consumer, too, it's the > consumer that should be responsible to stop the pwm in a controlled > manner. I think you can inhibit suspend by letting the .suspend() callback return an error. However, I think the PWM driver cannot make that decision on its own. Shutting down the PWM for a status LED is harmless, and the status LED being enabled should not prevent a system suspend. Shutting down e.g. a motor may be different. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds