Hi Geert, On 05 September 2018 10:37, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:03 PM Phil Edworthy wrote: > > On 03 September 2018 11:34, jacopo mondi wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 02:12:52PM +0100, Phil Edworthy wrote: > > > > This implements the pinctrl driver for the RZ/N1 family of > > > > devices, including the R9A06G032 (RZ/N1D) device. > > > > > > > > One area that is likely to be contentious is the use of 'virtual > > > > pins' for the MDIO pinmuxing. The driver uses two pins (170 and > > > > 171) that don't exist on > > > the > > > > device to configure the MDIO source within the RZ/N1 devices. On > > > > these > > > devices, > > > > there are two Ethernet MACs, a 5-Port Switch, numerous industrial > > > Ethernet > > > > peripherals, any of which can be the MDIO source. Configuring the > > > > MDIO > > > source > > > > could be done without the virtual pins, e.g. by extending the > > > > functions to cover all MDIO variants (a total of 32 additional > > > > functions), but this would allow users to misconfigure individual > > > > MDIO pins, rather than assign all > > > MDIO > > > > pins to a MDIO source. The choice of how to implement this will > > > > affect the DT bindings. > > > > > > > > This series was originally written by Michel Pollet whilst at > > > > Renesas, and I have taken over this work. > > > > > > > > One point from Michel's v1 series: > > > > "Note, I used renesas,rzn1-pinmux node to specify the pinmux > > > > constants, and I also don't use some of the properties documented > > > > in pinctrl-bindings.txt on purpose, as they are too limited for my > > > > use (I need to be able to set, clear, ignore or reset level, pull > > > > up/down and function as the pinmux might be set by another OS/core > > > > running concurently)." > > > > > > > > > > I start by saying that I don't know this HW pin controller well, so > > > I might be missing something, but as commented on the original > > > series from Micheal, I still don't see why you need a custom property > here... > > > > > > My understanding, looking at this comment and the header provided by > > > patch [1/3] (include/dt-bindings/pinctrl/rzn1-pinctrl.h) is that > > > basically need to control pull-up/down and the output driver strength. > > > > > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pinctrl/pinctrl-bindings.txt > > > reports a set of generic pin configuration properties to be applied > > > to a pin configuration (and multiplexing) pin controller child node > > > that fully express all (most?) of your needs. > > > > > > Eg. a pin configuration with pull up applied, using examples from > > > your cover letter should be expressed as > > > > > > Your example: > > > &pinctrl { > > > pinsuart0: pinsuart0 { > > > renesas,rzn1-pinmux-ids = < > > > RZN1_MUX(103, UART0_I) /* UART0_TXD */ > > > RZN1_MUX_PUP(104, UART0_I) /* UART0_RXD */ > > > >; > > > }; > > > }; > > > > > > Using standard pinctroller bindings pin configuration properties: > > > > > > &pinctrl { > > > pinsuart0: uart0 { > > > pinsuart_tx0 { > > > pinmux = <103, UART0_I>; /* UART0_TXD */ > > > }; > > > > > > pinsuart_rx0 { > > > pinmux = <104, UART0_I>; /* UART0_RXD */ > > > bias-pull-up; > > > }; > > > }; > > > }; > > > > > > Is there anything I am missing? Maybe from the interaction with > > > "another OS/core running concurrently" you mentioned? In this case > > > if you only have to perform pin configuration (because muxing is > > > handled > > > already) things are even simpler, just use the pin configuration > > > bindings, without involving muxing at all: > > > > > > &pinctrl { > > > pinsuart_conf: uart0 { > > > pins = <103, 104>; > > > bias-pull-up; > > > }; > > > }; > > > > Sorry I didn’t address your point. > > The only reason we want to use new properties is so the driver can > > process dts files that have been generated from an existing PinMux > > App. That output is used by VxWorks as well as our out-of-tree Linux > > port. If that is not a good enough reason to add new properties, then > > I can't see any technical reason not to use the existing bindings. > > The use with another OS running on a different core should not be a > > barrier as it must not use the same pins as Linux. > > Have the VxWorks DT bindings been submitted for review to the devicetree > mailing list? I'm not involved with the VxWorks port, but I am pretty sure that they have not been submitted for review. Thanks Phil