On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:02 PM John Hubbard <jhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 2020-06-22 15:33, Yang Shi wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:30 PM Yang Shi <shy828301@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 2:53 PM Zi Yan <ziy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> On 22 Jun 2020, at 17:31, Ralph Campbell wrote: > >>>> On 6/22/20 1:10 PM, Zi Yan wrote: > >>>>> On 22 Jun 2020, at 15:36, Ralph Campbell wrote: > >>>>>> On 6/21/20 4:20 PM, Zi Yan wrote: > >>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2020, at 17:56, Ralph Campbell wrote: > ... > >>> Ying(cc’d) developed the code to swapout and swapin THP in one piece: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20181207054122.27822-1-ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx/. > >>> I am not sure whether the patchset makes into mainstream or not. It could be a good technical reference > >>> for swapping in device private pages, although swapping in pages from disk and from device private > >>> memory are two different scenarios. > >>> > >>> Since the device private memory swapin impacts core mm performance, we might want to discuss your patches > >>> with more people, like the ones from Ying’s patchset, in the next version. > >> > >> I believe Ying will give you more insights about how THP swap works. > >> > >> But, IMHO device memory migration (migrate to system memory) seems > >> like THP CoW more than swap. > > > A fine point: overall, the desired behavior is "migrate", not CoW. > That's important. Migrate means that you don't leave a page behind, even > a read-only one. And that's exactly how device private migration is > specified. > > We should try to avoid any erosion of clarity here. Even if somehow > (really?) the underlying implementation calls this THP CoW, the actual > goal is to migrate pages over to the device (and back). > > > >> > >> When migrating in: > > > > Sorry for my fat finger, hit sent button inadvertently, let me finish here. > > > > When migrating in: > > > > - if THP is enabled: allocate THP, but need handle allocation > > failure by falling back to base page > > - if THP is disabled: fallback to base page > > > > OK, but *all* page entries (base and huge/large pages) need to be cleared, > when migrating to device memory, unless I'm really confused here. > So: not CoW. I realized the comment caused more confusion. I apologize for the confusion. Yes, the trigger condition for swap/migration and CoW are definitely different. Here I mean the fault handling part of migrating into system memory. Swap-in just needs to handle the base page case since THP swapin is not supported in upstream yet and the PMD is split in swap-out phase (see shrink_page_list). The patch adds THP migration support to device memory, but you need to handle migrate in (back to system memory) case correctly. The fault handling should look like THP CoW fault handling behavior (before 5.8): - if THP is enabled: allocate THP, fallback if allocation is failed - if THP is disabled: fallback to base page Swap fault handling doesn't look like the above. So, I said it seems like more THP CoW (fault handling part only before 5.8). I hope I articulate my mind. However, I didn't see such fallback is handled. It looks if THP allocation is failed, it just returns SIGBUS; and no check about THP status if I read the patches correctly. The THP might be disabled for the specific vma or system wide before migrating from device memory back to system memory. > > thanks, > -- > John Hubbard > NVIDIA
