On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 02:03:22PM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 02:52:03PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 01:01:49PM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 01:59:31PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:49:02PM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:36:49AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:34:25PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > > > > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This patch series arised out of discussions with Jerome when looking at the > > > > > > > ODP changes, particularly informed by use after free races we have already > > > > > > > found and fixed in the ODP code (thanks to syzkaller) working with mmu > > > > > > > notifiers, and the discussion with Ralph on how to resolve the lifetime model. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the last big difference with ODP's flow is how 'range->valid' > > > > > > works. > > > > > > > > > > > > In ODP this was done using the rwsem umem->umem_rwsem which is > > > > > > obtained for read in invalidate_start and released in invalidate_end. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then any other threads that wish to only work on a umem which is not > > > > > > undergoing invalidation will obtain the write side of the lock, and > > > > > > within that lock's critical section the virtual address range is known > > > > > > to not be invalidating. > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot understand how hmm gets to the same approach. It has > > > > > > range->valid, but it is not locked by anything that I can see, so when > > > > > > we test it in places like hmm_range_fault it seems useless.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jerome, how does this work? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a feeling we should copy the approach from ODP and use an > > > > > > actual lock here. > > > > > > > > > > range->valid is use as bail early if invalidation is happening in > > > > > hmm_range_fault() to avoid doing useless work. The synchronization > > > > > is explained in the documentation: > > > > > > > > That just says the hmm APIs handle locking. I asked how the apis > > > > implement that locking internally. > > > > > > > > Are you trying to say that if I do this, hmm will still work completely > > > > correctly? > > > > > > Yes it will keep working correctly. You would just be doing potentialy > > > useless work. > > > > I don't see how it works correctly. > > > > Apply the comment out patch I showed and this trivially happens: > > > > CPU0 CPU1 > > hmm_invalidate_start() > > ops->sync_cpu_device_pagetables() > > device_lock() > > // Wipe out page tables in device, enable faulting > > device_unlock() > > > > DEVICE PAGE FAULT > > device_lock() > > hmm_range_register() > > hmm_range_dma_map() > > device_unlock() > > hmm_invalidate_end() > > No in the above scenario hmm_range_register() will not mark the range > as valid thus the driver will bailout after taking its lock and checking > the range->valid value. I see your confusion, I only asked about removing valid from hmm.c, not the unlocked use of valid in your hmm.rst example. My mistake, sorry for being unclear. Here is the big 3 CPU ladder diagram that shows how 'valid' does not work: CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 DEVICE PAGE FAULT range = hmm_range_register() // Overlaps with range hmm_invalidate_start() range->valid = false ops->sync_cpu_device_pagetables() take_lock(driver->update); // Wipe out page tables in device, enable faulting release_lock(driver->update); // Does not overlap with range hmm_invalidate_start() hmm_invalidate_end() list_for_each range->valid = true device_lock() // Note range->valid = true now hmm_range_snapshot(&range); take_lock(driver->update); if (!hmm_range_valid(&range)) goto again ESTABLISHE SPTES device_unlock() hmm_invalidate_end() And I can make this more complicated (ie overlapping parallel invalidates, etc) and show any 'bool' valid cannot work. > > The mmu notifier spec says: > > > > * Invalidation of multiple concurrent ranges may be > > * optionally permitted by the driver. Either way the > > * establishment of sptes is forbidden in the range passed to > > * invalidate_range_begin/end for the whole duration of the > > * invalidate_range_begin/end critical section. > > > > And I understand "establishment of sptes is forbidden" means > > "hmm_range_dmap_map() must fail with EAGAIN". > > No it means that secondary page table entry (SPTE) must not > materialize thus what hmm_range_dmap_map() is doing if fine and safe > as long as the driver do not use the result to populate the device > page table if there was an invalidation for the range. Okay, so we agree, if there is an invalidate_start/end critical region then it is OK to *call* hmm_range_dmap_map(), however the driver must not *use* the result, and you are expecting this bit: take_lock(driver->update); if (!hmm_range_valid(&range)) { goto again In your hmm.rst to prevent the pfns from being used by the driver? I think the above ladder shows that hmm_range_valid can return true during a invalidate_start/end critical region, so this is a problem. I still think the best solution is to move device_lock() into mirror and have hmm manage it for the driver as ODP does. It is certainly the simplest solution to understand. Jason