RE: [PATCH rdma-next 3/3] RDMA/nldev: Return device protocol

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 12:58 AM
> To: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Doug Ledford
> <dledford@xxxxxxxxxx>; Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; RDMA
> mailing list <linux-rdma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next 3/3] RDMA/nldev: Return device protocol
> 
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 02:34:34AM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:02:45PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 04:45:30PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 04:18:37PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Reuse existing RDMA_NLDEV_ATTR_LINK_TYPE to give ability
> > > > > > > > for stable names UDEV rule create Ib device stable names
> > > > > > > > based on link type
> > > > > > protocol.
> > > > > > > > The assumption that devices like mlx4 with duality in
> > > > > > > > their link type under one IB device struct won't be allowed in
> the future.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was under impression that it qedr or cavium driver has
> > > > > > > iwarp and roce
> > > > > > ports on same hca.
> > > > > > > Any reason to not have the link type on per port basis?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not really, they don't mix link types in one IB device, I
> > > > > > remember that Jason ensured that during code review.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If it already exist at port level, than at device level
> > > > > > > addition is
> > > > confusing.
> > > > > > > It is like having port_num in ah_attr and also in qp_attr.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is just a name with already existing index and proper values.
> > > > > > What name do you think more appropriate? I'll add alias for
> > > > > > that, something like "RDMA_NLDEV_ATTR_NEW_COOL_NAME =
> > > > > > RDMA_NLDEV_ATTR_LINK_TYPE"
> > > > > Why can't we keep it as port attribute?
> > > >
> > > > I didn't find any reason to expose it as port attribute,
> > > > especially after Jason's "request" to do "technology" property per-
> device.
> > > It is at port level in verbs, so it is not harmful to keep it as port level,
> instead of duplicating it at device level.
> > >
> >
> > I agree.  When we went to the "port_imutable" patch set years ago we
> > started a move toward having attributes be port based as much as
> possible.
> 
> Ira, Parav,
> 
> The fact that standard describes that link type is per-port has nothing to do
> with this patch. The Linux implementation of IB devices (exclude
> mlx4) is one type per-device for all their ports. The HW device which needs
> to expose different protocols on its ports will create separate IB devices for
> each protocol.
> 
> >
> > I'm failing to understand why link type needs to be part of an
> > immutable device instance name?  This is where "mlx4_0" worked because
> > it was a "mlx4" device -- device instance number 0.
> 
> Mainly because we want to be nice to our users, so they won't need to
> update their scripts each time they change one RoCE adapter to another.
> All those adapters will have common and well understandable name
> "roce....".
> 
> >
> > I know that we are moving toward a single driver supporting more
> > device types so having the driver name is probably not the right name
> > but perhaps we should just name the devices.  Since we are already
> > cryptic should we use the PCI device ID?  But using driver name could still
> work.  Couldn't it?
> 
> I'm not sure that I understand your worries here. Kernel names are not going
> to be changed after this patch and it is userspace "job" to rename them to
> something more stable, based on PCI or GUID.
> 
> I tried to document how it is going to be and it includes an option to disable
> such renaming.
> https://github.com/linux-rdma/rdma-
> core/pull/487/commits/03ba0496c78d9418f8bbe82eb4828f16b8b0ecf9
> 
> >
> > I still think this is going to be hard for users.  But eventually I
> > think it will be better once the tools figure out how to "translate"
> > and/or users figure out how to assign names.
>
I do not understand udev framework a lot. Hence the below dumb question:
Why link type of first port cannot be ready by the user space to build the stable name?
(because of which link type per device should be provided by kernel)




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