Re: [PATCH rdma-next 00/13] Elastic Fabric Adapter (EFA) driver

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On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 11:54:01AM +0200, Gal Pressman wrote:
> On 02-Jan-19 20:12, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 05:14:34PM +0200, Gal Pressman wrote:
> >
> >> I'd really like to get to a point where we know how our next
> >> submission is going to look like. I understand that the lack of user
> >> code accompanied to the driver is an issue - that won't be the case
> >> in my next submission.
> >
> > Well, your submission is up to you :) There seems to have been quite a
> > lot missing from the first go around, so I think you'll get more
> > comments.
> >
> > You definitely need some kind of userspace though, we are not merging
> > any kernel uapi stuff without some kind of userspace.
>
> Agreed.
>
> >
> >> As I said, my proposal is to add libibverbs support (with standard
> >> QPT_UD and QP states) and specification for SRD.  In addition, I can
> >> come up with an RFC for hiding EFA from in-kernel API as you
> >> suggested, although we will probably revisit this in the future.
> >> Will this be acceptable?
> >
> > I have a feeling EFA will hit the same problems as usnic - libibverbs
> > will be difficult to extend to expose the various special things (how
> > will AH's even work? What about MTU?).
> >
> > Although we are in a better place now, so maybe those problems are now
> > solvable.
> >
> > Unless the libfabric EFA provider will use libibverbs for the kernel
> > interface I'm not sure I see the point in making something for
> > libibverbs that no-one is expected to use??
> >
> > Jason
> >
>
> The libfabric EFA provider doesn't use libibverbs, but it does use the same
> kernel verbs interface and kABI.
>
> If a libibverbs provider must be accompanied to each driver in the subsystem
> we'll do our best to comply. You know this library better than I (obviously :)),
> so there might be small issues we'll have to face. I guess we'll still have to
> use an EFA libfabric provider that calls libibverbs instead of using the
> existing libfabric verbs provider directly.
>
> If a libfabric provider that uses the same verbs kernel ABI is acceptable,
> that's what we currently have and that's what fits our customers needs the most
> and does not force them to use two different libraries for EFA usage.
>
> Whatever we do, I'll make sure to submit the userspace bits for review as well.

I'm slightly lost here, are you saying that EFA doesn't use libfabric
verbs interface and implemented ibv_* calls by itself?

Because libfabric verbs provider uses libibverbs behind the scenes.

Thanks

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