On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:44:22AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt > <benh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 09:56 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> I'm pretty sure I've never seen > >> any bug reports pointing to a missing wmb() between memory > >> and MMIO write accesses, but if you remember seeing them in the > >> list, maybe you can look again for some evidence of something going > >> wrong on x86 without it? > > > > The interesting thing is that we do seem to have a whole LOT of these > > spurrious wmb before writel all over the tree, I suspect because of > > that incorrect recommendation in memory-barriers.txt. > > > > We should fix that. > > Maybe the problem is just that it's so counter-intuitive that we don't > need that barrier in Linux, when the hardware does need one on some > architectures. > > How about we define a barrier type instruction specifically for this > purpose, something like wmb_before_mmio() and have all architectures > define that to an empty macro? > > That way, having correct code using wmb_before_mmio() will not > trigger an incorrect review comment that leads to extra wmb(). ;-) Please don't add more barriers :)! I think that will make it even more difficult to understand how to use the ones we already have -- the problem here seems to be that the documentation that was added for the dma_* barriers got this wrong, but it was at least in contradiction with the section elsewhere in memory-barriers.txt that describes the relaxed I/O accessors. I guess somebody could hack checkpatch to look for back-to-back wmb/writel sequences? I suspect we could do something with coccinelle too. Will -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rdma" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html