Re: [PATCH for-next 0/2] IB/opa_vnic: Add debugfs interface

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On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 02:02:58PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:37:40PM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
>
> > > We find it useful on an ongoing basis, more like some standard NICs
> > > providing debugfs interface to read/write from/to some of its registers.
> >
> > Usually if such interface is spotted during submission, it will be requested
> > to drop it. Ask Salil, who lately upstreamed new ETH driver and was asked
> > to remove it.
>
> To be fair Salil's was dropped more or less for security reasons..
>
> I think debugfs to dump truely internal state that is not intended to
> be API stable is reasonable.

Yes, it can be ripped in any point of life, despite the screaming.

>
> Promise you will not be tooling on top of this, or use it as an
> interface in your manager or something crazy like that. You must be
> happy in all cases if your distro chooses to disable debugfs.

Honestly, I don't know if we can trust to Intel's promises.

Among other promises, they wrote that OmniPath Ethernet Management part
will be open sourced too. It seems like it wasn't at the end.
My google searches with words "ethernet manager omni-path" revealed nothing.

>
> The problem I have with reviewing all the vnic patches is that I don't
> have a spec for vnic or anything, and I don't really know what the
> data being dumped is..

My problem with those patches that they don't show whole picture and the
more important you have no way to see it, if you want it.
Right now, it is legal code-sharing and not truly open-source which I would like to see.

> eg I would have been much happier if ipoib
> dump'd its debugfs stuff through netlink connected to neighbor objects
> - I don't know if this is something similar...
>
> As Leon says, you should really think carefully if this needs to be
> something that admins are going to be told to look at when vnic isn't
> working properly, as the ipoib debufs is. In that case netlink is a
> stable API and more suitable.
>
> Jason

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