Just because the code is not upstream does not mean it is crap, it just might be coded in a way that the kernel people would like done differently. Nvidia drivers are not upstream either, but lots of people use them. -----Original Message----- From: Christoph Hellwig [mailto:hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 7:50 AM To: Woodruff, Robert J <robert.j.woodruff@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Vladimir Sokolovsky <vlad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ewg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-rdma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] OFED 4.8-rc2 release is available So in plain words: Intel abuses their influence in OFED to ship crap that has absolutely no chance to get upstream in the current form instead of working with the community to improve infrastructure. That's exactly what I guessed, thanks for confirming. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rdma" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html