Re: [PATCH v5 0/8] Introduce fwctl subystem

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On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 01:30:52PM +0100, David Ahern wrote:
> On 3/5/25 7:28 PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 11:17:19AM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
> >> On 3/5/25 8:08 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >>> Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 02:32:54PM +0100, jgg@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 04:42:03PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> >>>>> I thought you were arguing that me opposing the addition was
> >>>>> "maintainer overreach". As in me telling other parts of the kernel
> >>>>> what is and isn't allowed. Do I not get a say what gets merged under
> >>>>> drivers/net/ now?
> >>>>
> >>>> The PCI core drivers are a shared resource jointly maintained by all
> >>>> the subsytems that use them. They are maintained by their respective
> >>>> maintainers. Saeed/etc in this case.
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be inappropriate for your preferences to supersede Saeed's
> >>>> when he is a maintainer of the mlx5_core driver and fwctl. Please try
> >>>> and get Saeed on board with your plan.
> >>>>
> >>>> If the placement under drivers/net makes this confusing then we can
> >>>> certainly change the directory names.
> >>>
> >>> According to how mlx5 driver is structured, and the rest of the advanced
> >>> drivers in the same area are becoming as well, it would make sense to me
> >>> to have mlx5 core in separate core directory, maintained directly by driver
> >>> maintainer:
> >>> drivers/core/mlx5/
> >>> then each of the protocol auxiliary device lands in appropriate
> >>> subsystem directory.
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> This is how I have structured our drivers -- core driver for owning the
> >> PCI device and hosting the APIs to communicate with hardware, an aux bus
> >> and then smaller subsystem focused drivers for the aux devices that make
> >> the device usable from different contexts.
> >>
> >> I think we are ready to start upstreaming, but I am waiting to see how
> >> this falls out - to see if our core driver can land in a non-subsystem
> >> specific location (e.g., drivers/core) or if it needs to go with fwctl
> >> as a generic location.
> > 
> > Do it right, and push it to drivers/core. I'm aware of at least one
> > driver from huge company (not Nvidia) which is in preparation phase
> > before upstreaming, and will fit nicely into this model.
> > 
> > They have separated blocks for PCI, eth, RDMA and GPU.
> > 
> 
> Adding that group here after an offlist discussion with that team. If I
> understand correctly, their preferred driver breakout is:
> 
> 
>       ┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
>       │                      Platform Driver                      │
>       │                      habanalabs                           │
>       └────────▲───────────────────▲────────────────────▲─────────┘
>                │AUX                │AUX                 │AUX
>       ┌────────┴────────┐ ┌────────┴────────┐ ┌─────────┴─────────┐
>       │ Accel Driver    │ │ Ethernet Driver │ │ InfiniBand Driver │
>       │ habanalabs_accel│ │ habanalabs_en   │ │ habanalabs_ib     │
>       └─────────────────┘ └─────────────────┘ └───────────────────┘

You got it right.

> 
> So that means 3 different vendors and 3 different devices looking for a
> similar auxbus based hierarchy with a core driver not buried within one
> of the subsystems.
> 
> I guess at this point we just need to move forward with the proposal and
> start sending patches.
> 
> Seems like drivers/core is the consensus for the core driver?

Yes, anything that is not aux_core is fine by me.

drivers/core or drivers/aux.

Thanks

> 




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