On Tue, 10 Sept 2024 at 09:43, Doug Miller <doug.miller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 9/10/2024 10:13 AM, Mathieu Poirier wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:12:07AM -0500, Doug Miller wrote: > >> On 9/3/2024 10:52 AM, Doug Miller wrote: > >>> I am trying to learn how to create an RPMSG-over-VIRTIO device > >>> (service) in order to perform communication between a host driver and > >>> a guest driver. The RPMSG-over-VIRTIO driver (client) side is fairly > >>> well documented and there is a good example (starting point, at least) > >>> in samples/rpmsg/rpmsg_client_sample.c. > >>> > >>> I see that I can create an endpoint (struct rpmsg_endpoint) using > >>> rpmsg_create_ept(), and from there I can use rpmsg_send() et al. and > >>> the rpmsg_rx_cb_t cb to perform the communications. However, this > >>> requires a struct rpmsg_device and it is not clear just how to get one > >>> that is suitable for this purpose. > >>> > >>> It appears that one or both of rpmsg_create_channel() and > >>> rpmsg_register_device() are needed in order to obtain a device for the > >>> specific host-guest communications channel. At some point, a "root" > >>> device is needed that will use virtio (VIRTIO_ID_RPMSG) such that new > >>> subdevices can be created for each host-guest pair. > >>> > >>> In addition, building a kernel with CONFIG_RPMSG, CONFIG_RPMSG_VIRTIO, > >>> and CONFIG_RPMSG_NS set, and doing a modprobe virtio_rpmsg_bus, seems > >>> to get things setup but that does not result in creation of any "root" > >>> rpmsg-over-virtio device. Presumably, any such device would have to be > >>> setup to use a specific range of addresses and also be tied to > >>> virtio_rpmsg_bus to ensure that virtio is used. > >>> > >>> It is also not clear if/how register_rpmsg_driver() will be required > >>> on the rpmsg driver side, even though the sample code does not use it. > >>> > >>> So, first questions are: > >>> > >>> * Am I looking at the correct interfaces in order to create the host > >>> rpmsg device side? > >>> * What needs to be done to get a "root" rpmsg-over-virtio device > >>> created (if required)? > >>> * How is a rpmsg-over-virtio device created for each host-guest driver > >>> pair, for use with rpmsg_create_ept()? > >>> * Does the guest side (rpmsg driver) require any special handling to > >>> plug-in to the host driver (rpmsg device) side? Aside from using the > >>> correct addresses to match device side. > >> It looks to me as though the virtio_rpmsg_bus module can create a > >> "rpmsg_ctl" device, which could be used to create channels from which > >> endpoints could be created. However, when I load the virtio_rpmsg_bus, > >> rpmsg_ns, and rpmsg_core modules there is no "rpmsg_ctl" device created > >> (this is running in the host OS, before any VMs are created/run). > >> > > At this time the modules stated above are all used when a main processor is > > controlling a remote processor, i.e via the remoteproc subsystem. I do not know > > of an implementation where VIRTIO_ID_RPMSG is used in the context of a > > host/guest scenario. As such you will find yourself in uncharted territory. > > > > At some point there were discussion via the OpenAMP body to standardize the > > remoteproc's subsystem establishment of virtqueues to conform to a host/guest > > scenario but was abandonned. That would have been a step in the right direction > > for what you are trying to do. > I was looking at some existing rpmsg code, at it appeared to me that > some adapters, like the "qcom", are creating an rpmsg device that > provides specialized methods for talking to the remote processor(s). I > have assumed this is because that hardware does not allow for running > something remotely that can utilize the virtio queues directly, and so > these rpmsg devices provide code to do the communication with their > hardware. What's not clear is whether these devices are using > rpmsg-over-virtio or if they are creating their own rpmsg facility (and > whether they even support guest-host communication). > The QC implementation is different and does not use virtio - there is a special HW interface between the main and the remote processors. That configuration is valid since RPMSG can be implemented over anything. > What I'm also wondering is what needs to be done differently for virtio > when communicating guest-host vs local CPU to remote processor. I was