> -----Original Message----- > From: Jinpu Wang [mailto:jinpu.wang@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 5:18 PM > To: Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: Greg Sword <gregsword0@xxxxxxxxx>; Peter Xu <peterx@xxxxxxxxxx>; > Yu Zhang <yu.zhang@xxxxxxxxx>; Michael Galaxy <mgalaxy@xxxxxxxxxx>; > Elmar Gerdes <elmar.gerdes@xxxxxxxxx>; zhengchuan > <zhengchuan@xxxxxxxxxx>; Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx>; > Markus Armbruster <armbru@xxxxxxxxxx>; Zhijian Li (Fujitsu) > <lizhijian@xxxxxxxxxxx>; qemu-devel@xxxxxxxxxx; Yuval Shaia > <yuval.shaia.ml@xxxxxxxxx>; Kevin Wolf <kwolf@xxxxxxxxxx>; Prasanna > Kumar Kalever <prasanna.kalever@xxxxxxxxxx>; Cornelia Huck > <cohuck@xxxxxxxxxx>; Michael Roth <michael.roth@xxxxxxx>; Prasanna > Kumar Kalever <prasanna4324@xxxxxxxxx>; Paolo Bonzini > <pbonzini@xxxxxxxxxx>; qemu-block@xxxxxxxxxx; devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > Hanna Reitz <hreitz@xxxxxxxxxx>; Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@xxxxxxxxxx>; > Thomas Huth <thuth@xxxxxxxxxx>; Eric Blake <eblake@xxxxxxxxxx>; Song > Gao <gaosong@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Marc-André Lureau > <marcandre.lureau@xxxxxxxxxx>; Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@xxxxxxxxxx>; > Wainer dos Santos Moschetta <wainersm@xxxxxxxxxx>; Beraldo Leal > <bleal@xxxxxxxxxx>; Pannengyuan <pannengyuan@xxxxxxxxxx>; > Xiexiangyou <xiexiangyou@xxxxxxxxxx>; Fabiano Rosas <farosas@xxxxxxx>; > RDMA mailing list <linux-rdma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; shefty@xxxxxxxxxx; Haris > Iqbal <haris.iqbal@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [PATCH-for-9.1 v2 2/3] migration: Remove RDMA protocol handling > > Hi Gonglei, > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:31 AM Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Greg Sword [mailto:gregsword0@xxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 2:06 PM > > > To: Jinpu Wang <jinpu.wang@xxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH-for-9.1 v2 2/3] migration: Remove RDMA protocol > > > handling > > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 12:33 PM Jinpu Wang <jinpu.wang@xxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 4:43 AM Gonglei (Arei) > > > > <arei.gonglei@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Peter Xu [mailto:peterx@xxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 PM > > > > > > > > > Exactly, not so compelling, as I did it first only on > > > > > > > > > servers widely used for production in our data center. > > > > > > > > > The network adapters are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ethernet controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries > > > > > > > > > NetXtreme > > > > > > > > > BCM5720 2-port Gigabit Ethernet PCIe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm... I definitely thinks Jinpu's Mellanox ConnectX-6 > > > > > > > > looks more > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/CAMGffEn-DKpMZ4tA71MJYdyemg0Zda > > > > > > 15 > > > > > > > > wVAqk81vXtKzx-LfJQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate a lot for everyone helping on the testings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > InfiniBand controller: Mellanox Technologies MT27800 > > > > > > > > > Family [ConnectX-5] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which doesn't meet our purpose. I can choose RDMA or TCP > > > > > > > > > for VM migration. RDMA traffic is through InfiniBand and > > > > > > > > > TCP through Ethernet on these two hosts. One is standby > > > > > > > > > while the other > > > is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I'll try on a server with more recent Ethernet and > > > > > > > > > InfiniBand network adapters. One of them has: > > > > > > > > > BCM57414 NetXtreme-E 10Gb/25Gb RDMA Ethernet Controller > > > > > > > > > (rev > > > > > > > > > 01) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The comparison between RDMA and TCP on the same NIC > > > > > > > > > could make more > > > > > > > > sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks to me NICs are powerful now, but again as I > > > > > > > > mentioned I don't think it's a reason we need to deprecate > > > > > > > > rdma, especially if QEMU's rdma migration has the chance > > > > > > > > to be refactored > > > using rsocket. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone who started looking into that direction? > > > > > > > > Would it make sense we start some PoC now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My team has finished the PoC refactoring which works well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Progress: > > > > > > > 1. Implement io/channel-rdma.c, 2. Add unit test > > > > > > > tests/unit/test-io-channel-rdma.c and verifying it is > > > > > > > successful, 3. Remove the original code from migration/rdma.c, 4. > > > > > > > Rewrite the rdma_start_outgoing_migration and > > > > > > > rdma_start_incoming_migration logic, 5. Remove all rdma_xxx > > > > > > > functions from migration/ram.c. (to prevent RDMA live > > > > > > > migration from polluting the > > > > > > core logic of live migration), 6. The soft-RoCE implemented > > > > > > by software is used to test the RDMA live migration. It's successful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We will be submit the patchset later. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's great news, thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Peter Xu > > > > > > > > > > For rdma programming, the current mainstream implementation is > > > > > to use > > > rdma_cm to establish a connection, and then use verbs to transmit data. > > > > > > > > > > rdma_cm and ibverbs create two FDs respectively. The two FDs > > > > > have different responsibilities. rdma_cm fd is used to notify > > > > > connection establishment events, and verbs fd is used to notify > > > > > new CQEs. When > > > poll/epoll monitoring is directly performed on the rdma_cm fd, only > > > a pollin event can be monitored, which means that an rdma_cm event > > > occurs. When the verbs fd is directly polled/epolled, only the > > > pollin event can be listened, which indicates that a new CQE is generated. > > > > > > > > > > Rsocket is a sub-module attached to the rdma_cm library and > > > > > provides rdma calls that are completely similar to socket interfaces. > > > > > However, this library returns only the rdma_cm fd for listening > > > > > to link > > > setup-related events and does not expose the verbs fd (readable and > > > writable events for listening to data). Only the rpoll interface > > > provided by the RSocket can be used to listen to related events. > > > However, QEMU uses the ppoll interface to listen to the rdma_cm fd > (gotten by raccept API). > > > > > And cannot listen to the verbs fd event. > I'm confused, the rs_poll_arm > :https://github.com/linux-rdma/rdma-core/blob/master/librdmacm/rsocket.c# > L3290 > For STREAM, rpoll setup fd for both cq fd and cm fd. > > > > > > > > > > > Do you guys have any ideas? Thanks. > > > > +cc linux-rdma > > > > > > Why include rdma community? > > > > > > > Can rdma/rsocket provide an API to expose the verbs fd? > Why do we need verbs fd? looks rsocket during rsend/rrecv is handling the new > completion if any via rs_get_comp > Actually I said the reason in the previous mail. Listing some header in librdmacm. /* verbs.h */ struct ibv_comp_channel { struct ibv_context *context; int fd; int refcnt; }; /* rdma_cma.h */ struct rdma_event_channel { int fd; }; /* rdma_cma.h */ struct rdma_cm_id { struct ibv_context *verbs; struct rdma_event_channel *channel; //==> it can be gotten by rsocket.h void *context; struct ibv_qp *qp; struct rdma_route route; enum rdma_port_space ps; uint8_t port_num; struct rdma_cm_event *event; struct ibv_comp_channel *send_cq_channel; // ==> can't be gotten so that Qemu can't read the CQE data struct ibv_cq *send_cq; struct ibv_comp_channel *recv_cq_channel; struct ibv_cq *recv_cq; struct ibv_srq *srq; struct ibv_pd *pd; enum ibv_qp_type qp_type; }; /* rsocket.h */ int raccept(int socket, struct sockaddr *addr, socklen_t *addrlen); int rpoll(struct pollfd *fds, nfds_t nfds, int timeout); > Another question to my mind is Daniel suggested a bit different way of using > rsocket: https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/ZjtOreamN8xF9FDE@xxxxxxxxxx/ > Have you considered that? > We do use 'rsocket' APIs to refactor the RDMA code in QEMU and encounter the issue. Regards, -Gonglei
