Re: Safe to delete rpcrdma.ko loading start-up code

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在 2024/5/21 22:30, Sagi Grimberg 写道:


On 21/05/2024 19:37, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 07:10:53PM +0300, Sagi Grimberg wrote:

On 21/05/2024 18:23, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 05:12:23PM +0300, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
I also see that srp(t) and iser(t) are loaded too.. IIRC these are
loaded by their userspace counterparts as well (or at least they
should).
And AFIAK, these don't have a way to autoload at all. autoload
requires the kernel to call request_module..
nvme/nvmet/isert are requested by the kernel.
How? What is the interface to trigger request_module?
On the host, writing to the nvme-fabrics misc device a comma-separated
connection string
contains a transport string, which triggers the corresponding module to be
requested.
But how did nvme-fabrics even get loaded to write to it's config fs in
the first place?
Something (/etc/modules-load?) loaded it intentionally.
That something knows about a concrete intention to use nvme though...
This mechanism we are talking about is an add-on to /etc/modules-load
that only executes if rdma HW is present.

Still does not mean you want to use all the ulps though...


This is why it is a good place to load nvme-fabrics stuff, if you
don't have rdma HW then you know you don't need it.

Do I want to autoload nvme-fabrics if I have a nvme device? do I want
autoload nvme-tcp if I have an ethernet nic? maybe wlan nic is also a
sufficient reason?

I just don't see why the presence of an rdma device dictates that all the ulps
autoload. Does rxe/siw count as rdma HW?

RXE/SIW can be auto loaded with the command "rdma link ...".
And some kernel modules, for example ib_core.ko, udp_tunnel.ko, ip6_udp_tunnel.ko and ib_uverbs.ko, are also auto-loaded when rxe/siw kernel modules are loaded.

RXE/SIW are emulation RDMA kernel drivers. They are based on NIC HW. Normally all the NICs can support RXE/SIW RDMA drivers because RXE/SIW do not require additional NIC features.

To now almost all the NIC HW can support RXE/SIW, even some virtual NICs can also support RXE/SIW, for example, bonding, TUN and veth.

Zhu Yanjun



Autoloading is the version where you do 'mount -tnfs -o=rdma' and the
kernel automatically request_module's nfs and then nfs-rdma based only
on the command line options.

I'm not sure this is even possible with configfs as the directories
you need to write into don't even exist until the module(s) are
loaded, right?

Right. The entry-point of the subsystem needs to be loaded (nvmet is loaded by nvmetcli),
the individual transports/drivers are auto-selected.





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