On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 10:45:12 +0200 Leon Romanovsky wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 08:10:17AM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 17:38:53 +0200 Leon Romanovsky wrote: > > > My approach works, exactly like it works in other subsystems. > > > https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/cover.1636390483.git.leonro@xxxxxxxxxx/ > > > > What "other subsystems"? I'm aware of the RFC version of these patches. > > Approach to have fine-grained locking scheme, instead of having one big lock. > This was done in MM for mmap_sem, we did it for RDMA too. You're breaking things up to avoid lock ordering issues. The user can still only run a single write command at a time. > > Breaking up the locks to to protect sub-objects only is fine for > > protecting internal lists but now you can't guarantee that the object > > exists when driver is called. > > I can only guess about which objects you are talking. It obviously refers to the port splitting I mentioned below. > If you are talking about various devlink sub-objects (ports, traps, > e.t.c), they created by the drivers and as such should be managed by them. > Also they are connected to devlink which is guaranteed to exist. At the end, > they called to devlink_XXX->devlink pointer without any existence check. > > If you are talking about devlink instance itself, we guarantee that it > exists between devlink_alloc() and devlink_free(). It seems to me pretty > reasonable request from drivers do not access devlink before devlink_alloc() > or after devlink_free(), > > > I'm sure you'll utter your unprovable "in real drivers.." but the fact > > is my approach does not suffer from any such issues. Or depends on > > drivers registering devlink last. > > Registration of devlink doesn't do anything except opening it to the world. > The lifetime is controlled with alloc and free. My beloved sentence "in > real drivers ..." belongs to use of devlink_put and devlink_locks outside > of devlink.c and nothing more. As soon as there is a inter-dependency between two subsystems "must be last" breaks down. > > I can start passing a pointer to a devlink_port to split/unsplit > > functions, which is a great improvement to the devlink driver API. > > You can do it with my approach too. We incremented reference counter > of devlink instance when devlink_nl_cmd_port_split_doit() was called, > and we can safely take devlink->port_list_lock lock before returning > from pre_doit. Wait, I thought you'd hold devlink->lock around split/unsplit. Please look at the port splitting case, mlx5 doesn't implement it but it's an important feature. Either way, IDK how ref count on devlink helps with lifetime of a subobject. You must assume the sub-objects can only be created outside of the time devlink instance is visible or under devlink->lock?