On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 09:58:21PM +0000, Wan, Kaike wrote: > > On 3/19/2021 4:59 PM, Wan, Kaike wrote: > > >> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@xxxxxxxxxx> > > >> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 4:55 PM > > >> To: Rimmer, Todd <todd.rimmer@xxxxxxxxx> > > >> Cc: Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > > >> Wan, Oh, there is lots of stuff in UCX, I'm not surprised you > > >> similarities to what PSM did since psm/libfabric/ucx are all solving the > > same problems. > > >> > > >>>> rv seems to completely destroy alot of the HPC performance offloads > > >>>> that vendors are layering on RC QPs > > >> > > >>> Different vendors have different approaches to performance and chose > > >>> different design trade-offs. > > >> > > >> That isn't my point, by limiting the usability you also restrict the > > >> drivers where this would meaningfully be useful. > > >> > > >> So far we now know that it is not useful for mlx5 or hfi1, that > > >> leaves only hns unknown and still in the HPC arena. > > > [Wan, Kaike] Incorrect. The rv module works with hfi1. > > > > Interesting. I was thinking the opposite. So what's the benefit? When would > > someone want to do that? > [Wan, Kaike] This is only because rv works with the generic Verbs > interface and hfi1 happens to be one of the devices that implements > the Verbs interface. Well, it works with everything (except EFA), but that is not my point. I said it is not useful. Jason