On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:44:24PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Mark Brown wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:16:45AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > > > I'm not familiar with the details of how the i2c subsystem works. But > > > in general, the subsystem code should call pm_runtime_set_active() > > > for every device before registering it. Then if a driver doesn't use > > > any runtime-PM functions, pm_runtime_suspended() will return false. > > Hrm, if that's the case then we also need to update at least the > > platform and SPI buses. Though looking at the documentation this is > > going to get a bit interesting as there's a requirement that the parent > > has runtime PM enabled on it... > The parent can either be set to the active state or set to ignore its > children. The parent does not have to be enabled for runtime PM. Both of those require that the parent is set up to know something about runtime PM to some extent - in the case of buses like I2C the parent is a largely unrelated thing on a different bus which may or may not have runtime PM implemented. > > It's certainly not terribly apparent > > from the documentation. > What part isn't clear from the documentation? I think the description > of pm_runtime_set_active() in Documentation/power/runtime_pm.txt is > pretty straightforward. It's not clear to me that one needs to do this in order to avoid breaking the suspend and resume calls of drivers that aren't doing anything with runtime PM. It's clear what it does, but it's less clear that the bus should do it or that not doing it will have an impact on stuff that isn't using runtime PM. > > It'd be really helpful if it were clearer what noop buses like this were > > supposed to do to get runtime PM working. > I'm a little confused. When you say this is a "noop" bus, do you mean > that it can't do any power management? If so, why does it need to get > runtime PM working? The bus as a whole may not be able to do anything useful with runtime PM but individual devices on it may be able to do so - for example, a multi function device provides a parent device and a bunch of children for that device. Runtime PM provides a nice way for the children to individually suspend themselves and let the parent implement extra power savings if all the children suspend. It also provides a userspace API for controlling runtime suspend behaviour which drivers may find useful, and stuff like the autosuspend delays might be useful to some. _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm
