On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:58:12PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Brian Swetland <swetland@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Felipe Contreras > > <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Not Ubuntu, not Fedora, not MeeGo, not anyone with a typical > >> user-space seems to be having this problem. I can argue to you that > >> this problem can be solved in easier ways, but instead I will argue > >> that perhaps we should wait for somebody besides Android to complain > >> about it before providing a "solution". Because after all, what good > >> is a "solution" provided by the kernel, if the user-space is not going > >> to use it, ever. > > > > I'm curious, when does Android count as a user of the kernel? I > > gather that volume of sales or users doesn't count. Do we have to > > include some percentage of "desktop" Linux? > > You are *one* user of the kernel. Let's suppose Android wasn't using > suspend-blockers, and there was another equally successful linux > mobile platform, Foobingo, and they were using them, and they were the > only ones interested on implementing them. > > What does that change? Nothing. They still need to convince the > community that what they are proposing to be merged is actually > useful, and somebody will use it. If not, they can just keep the patch > for themselves until they do. I don't see the big deal. So the current users of the Linux kernel are the following? o GNU/Linux o Android Do any other distributions or devices with unusual user-space layouts qualify? Thanx, Paul > > If we're an undesirable second-class citizen, why do people care that > > "android is forking the kernel"? > > Nobody has expressed anything remotely like that (that you are a > second-class citizen). Why makes you think so? Lots of people get > patches denied. Like Nokia's u_char driver, which is *way* less > controversial than this one. > > -- > Felipe Contreras _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm
