On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Jerome Glisse wrote: > On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 06:50:41PM -0800, Jesse Barnes wrote: > > > > Linus, can we ever drop those old paths? Maybe after the new bits have > > been around for awhile? Users of really old userspace stacks would > > lose 3D support, but they'd still have 2D, so it wouldn't be a complete > > break. The non-KMS paths sometimes break like this anyway without us > > noticing (especially some of the weirder 3D paths)... > > > > Just thinking out loud, we could really kill a lot of really bad code... > > I among those who would love such things to happen :) I don't want to drop it _yet_, but "ever"? Sure. When people are sure that KMS actually handles all the cases that old X does (maybe that's true now), and we've had more than just a couple of kernel releases of _stable_ Intel KMS, I suspect we can start thinking about "ok, nobody seriously uses 3D on Intel integrated graphics _and_ updates the kernel". The fact that they'd still have a working X setup would make it generally much more palatable, I think. But we definitely need more than just a couple of kernel releases. So we're talking timescales of "more than a year of stable code". Whether that is "six months from now" or "two years from now", I can't judge. And people can try to convince me to be more or less aggressive about it, so take the above as a more of a personal opinion that is open to change than anything definite and final. Linus _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm