On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 04:50:11PM -0800, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > The only reason you've given for needing a timeout is that there are > > sections of the kernel that don't support wakelocks. > > Or when not trusting userspace. In the last user space api, I also use > a timeout when a process dies with a wakelock locked. That's policy that's easily to implement in userspace. > > The only reason > > there are sections of the kernel that don't support wakelocks is that > > people don't like the API. > > That is a pretty big leap. There is no wakelock api in the current > kernel. I think the absence of an api is a more plausible explanation > for it not being used than that people do not like the api. If an acceptable API gets merged then there's no reason not to quickly spread it to the sections of the kernel which would benefit. > > Well, yeah, that's another pretty solid argument in favor of killing the > > freezer... > > Not freezing threads does not solve the problem. The thread could be > waiting for a driver that is suspended before the driver that is > preventing suspend. I think it would be pretty acceptable to schedule a retry for the suspend if the count is still zero at that point. > > Mm? I was thinking that in the debug case you'd replace the counter with > > a list containing the device structs, then simply dump the device name > > to your debug output. > > We always use the debug case. I don't think a list of device struct is > better than a list of wakelocks. You may. Others will not. There's benefit in simplifying the non-debug case. > > If you're passing a device struct then I think it implies that that > > device is no linger inhibiting suspend. > > How is passing the device struct to the api better than passing a > wake_lock struct? It's not hugely, but it seems like a neater description of what's going on. I don't really object to the use of a struct wait_lock - I think it's more complicated than necessary for the vast majority of cases, but that's not a significant issue. I think the name doesn't do a good job of indicating what's going on, and I think the timeout aspect is a misfeature. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm