On Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:08, Al Boldi wrote: > david@xxxxxxx wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Al Boldi wrote: > > > We have to go through ACPI, for wakeup functions to succeed. A simple > > > power-off won't do. > > > > the kexec switch being posted requires ACPI be disabled, so it's clearly > > possible to switch kernels and initialize devices without ACPI > > It's a given that kexec works in the absence of ACPI; what we have to handle > is the ACPI states across kernel invocations, to ensure wakeup functions > succeed. If you don't need this, then just power off. > > > >> suspend-to-disk-and-ram could be implemented as three > > >> seperate steps > > >> > > >> 1. suspend-to-disk > > >> > > >> 2. resume-from-disk > > >> > > >> 3. suspend-to-ram > > >> > > >> followed by either > > >> > > >> 4. resume-from-ram > > >> > > >> or > > >> > > >> 4. battery dies and loptop powers off completely > > >> > > >> 5. power-on boot. > > >> > > >> 6. resume-from-disk > > >> > > >> all that you need to do is to make sure that the system doesn't run > > >> anything that would affect permanent media or the outside world between > > >> steps #2 and #3 > > > > > > Exactly, which is why your scheme would break down on #3, and that's why > > > you need to call S3 from within the kexec'd hibernation kernel after > > > saving the hibernation image. > > > > when a kexec is called, how does the kernel know what to execute? > > something needs to tell it what to do, and I think that something is > > either something in the kexec image, or it's something passed as a > > parameter to that image. > > > > all that would be needed to do #3 safely is to have the kernel that you > > restarted on #2 do a suspend-to-ram before it does anything else. > > If you mean by kernel 'the normal kernel', then this won't work, because it > would imply a change of state after saving its image. > > If you mean by kernel 'the kexec'd hibernation kernel', then you wouldn't > need to do #2, but rather do #3 right after dumping the image in #1. > > [...insert from another post...] > > > BTW, it would be really helpful if people would actually try the kexec > > > hibernation patches, as this may yield a much more constructive > > > discussion. > > > > I would love to, but so far I don't see the nessasary pieces > > > > once I kexec to the new kernel, how can it find out what pages of memory > > (and swap) need to be saved? > > No need to save the swap, Correct. > all you need to do is to dump /dev/oldmem onto storage, I'm not sure of that. > and if that dump image is compatible with swsusp, No, it's not. swusp additionally needs to know PFNs to restore the pages into. > then a normal kernel should be able to resume from this image via > /dev/snapshot. Nope. Greetings, Rafael -- "Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm
