Pavel, Greg, I started CC'ing lkml as you guys requested (well forced really). Now we have half the discussion occurring on linux-pm and the other half on both. The guys on lkml are going to be lost and even more confused than the people on this list. If you guys want lkml to see the discussion, make sure you add them to the CC when replying to linux-pm only emails. Perhaps we should keep the discussion on linux-pm until we are all straight and then send the results to lkml. I'm open to whatever you want as along as we are consistent. Matt