On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Linus, You are contradicting yourself a bit I think... On one mailed, > you agreed that suspend() would happen in a "live" systems with no > quiescing of subsystems and now you say drivers shouldn't bother Right. SUSPEND. Not SNAPSHOT. The real STR shouldn't actually need to quiesce anything. But STD isn't suspend. And it damn well needs to quiesce things. As long as you think of STD as suspend, you're never going to get _anywhere_. It's not. It has never been. And it never will be. Linus