[linux-pm] Re: standby to disk transition

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Pavel Machek wrote:

> > > Even if you make sure *kernel* is consistent with changed filesystem,
> > > userland is going to be badly confused. Imagine what will happen with
> > > memory mapped files, for example. 
> > 
> > Something like what happens when you suspend with a mounted CD
> > and mmapped files from there, then you replace the CD while suspended
> > and resume.  Not a wise thing to do, but I think people will do such things
> > from time to time and we'd better be prepared to handle them nicely.
> 
> But... we can't prevent userspace from segfaulting in such case... can
> we?
> 
> > > I'm not sure how it could work...
> > 
> > IMO memory mapped files are the most difficult problem here,
> > but the rest seems to be doable in general.
> 
> It seems to be the same problem with removable media... You could
> replace mounted CDrom while running. (Not all CDroms support door
> lock.)

In theory, any SCSI device is supposed to realize when the medium has been 
changed and notify the host by responding to the next command with a Unit 
Attention sense key.  That's how medium changes while the system _isn't_ 
suspended get detected.

The situation becomes much more problematic when the SCSI device itself is
powered off.  In that case (which includes the "hardware doesn't support
USB power during suspend" problem discussed at great length earlier), the
kernel has only two choices.  Either assume that the medium _has_ been
changed -- or more generally, that a new device is present -- or else try
to verify somehow that the current medium is the same as the old medium.

This verification can't be certain, so there would always be a chance for 
error.  Besides, right now the kernel contains no code for making such 
verifications.

Alan Stern


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