On 12/27/05, Patrick Mochel <mochel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > > On Monday 26 December 2005 16:20, Patrick Mochel wrote: > > > > > Unbinding and > > > > > rebinding do a whole lot more. A device does an entire round trip through > > > > > the driver core, which does a lot of crap. There are several memory > > > > > allocations, perhaps dozens of sysfs files created, and a handful of locks > > > > > taken adn lists traversed. > > > > > > > > No, you're thinking of unregistering and re-registering a device or > > > > driver. Unbinding and rebinding is much simpler, although still somewhat > > > > complex. > > > > > > Ah, point taken; I was thinking that all USB devices were still > > > disconnected during a suspend transition.. > > > > > > > Device removal could happen at any point, even during suspend transition. > > The kernel should be able to handle this scenario therefore implementation > > that assumes that device tree is frozen in flawed. As far as I understand > > the only thing that does not work at the moment is invoking hotplug handler. > > I don't think that the tree should be assumed to be frozen. I just think > that we should try to avoid doing a full add or remove of a device (or > really, any object) while in a suspend or resume transition. > > During normal system operation, how does a USB device get removed? Does it > happen via the USB hub thread? Forgive me for asking a question that's > probably been asked countless times, but is this thread running during a > suspend transition? > That's Greg/Alan question, I am ignorant here. > Would it be possible to simply mark the device as 'removed' and ignore it > until we resumed, and then clean it up (hotplug events and everything)? > Unfortunately swsusp resumes devices in the middle of suspend process with everything frozen and drivers don't know if they may clean up or have to postpone doing so. To do it uniformly you'd need to introduce threads and offload cleanups. I doubt it is good idea to require each subsystem to define cleanup thread or [ab]used keventd? -- Dmitry
