On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 02:57:11PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 18:02 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 11:05:00PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > Now... if something can be > > > done in userspace, it probably should. > > > > And that usually means it just isn't done. Cases in point: > > multichannel audio software mixing, video pixel formats conversion. > > What are you talking about? ALSA does mixing in userspace, it works > great. You have an interesting definition of "great". 1- It doesn't work without an annoyingly complex, extremely badly documented user configuration. To the point that it doesn't work in either an out-of-the-box, updated Fedora Core 3 nor an out-of-the-box gentoo. 2- It doesn't work for programs that do not use the annoyingly complex and horribly documented alsa library, which includes everything that still uses OSS[1]. You call that great? Multiple audio streams is such a basic feature it should work, period. No if, no buts, and no obligatory library. Which doesn't preclude having it in userspace, mind you. But it should never have been the _application_'s responsability. OG. [1] Which is so easier to use for normal programs' audio it's not funny.