On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 18:45 -0800, David Brownell wrote: > If you've hogtied your system by forcing some devices ("busses") into > certain states that prevent others from working, it seems only fair to > me that it stay hogtied. No. For example, I'm a host controller. I notice I didn't get any request for a while, I want to enter a suspended state. That means going through dependencies of my childs so they can all enter a state compatible with me going to suspend. > I suspect you're actually agreeing with me there that some of the > drivers need flexibility to manage their power states. And maybe > even that such modes will be the main ones of interest... > > My answer to the question of how those parent/child dependency > details should be managed was to ensure that the parent can do > what it needs to. That is, decentralize those issues. I don't > understand why you seem to dislike that approach, when so many > of your examples seem to confirm it would work. I want to have the driver in control, yes. But I also want to have a core that removes the burden from driver writers in the "generic" cases. It's all a tradeoff to find :)