I second Patrick's nomination for Sunday, May 17th in Ottawa. I know some folks who have similar meetings -- I'll ask what they do for rooms. > there's all those sociological studies that say 6-7 people > is the optimal size for a discussion group. :) Somebody told me it was the Roman Army that discovered a unit commander could effectively handle 7 others before he had to add additional management overhead... I've also hears that train tracks are the width that they are because of the wheel width of Roman chariots -- urban legend?:-) cheers, -Len
