Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] get_user_pages() for PCI BAR Memory

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On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 02:24:57PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Many systems can now support direct DMA between two PCI devices, for
> instance between a RDMA NIC and a NVMe CMB, or a RDMA NIC and GPU
> graphics memory. In many system architectures this peer-to-peer PCI-E
> DMA transfer is critical to achieving performance as there is simply
> not enough system memory/PCI-E bandwidth for data traffic to go
> through the CPU socket.
> 
> For many years various out of tree solutions have existed to serve
> this need. Recently some components have been accpeted into mainline,
> such as the p2pdma system, which allows co-operating drivers to setup
> P2P DMA transfers at the PCI level. This has allowed some kernel P2P
> DMA transfers related to NVMe CMB and RDMA to become supported.
> 
> A major next step is to enable P2P transfers under userspace
> control. This is a very broad topic, but for this session I propose to
> focus on initial cases of supporting drivers can setup a P2P transfer
> from a PCI BAR page mmap'd to userspace. This is the basic starting
> point for future discussions on how to adapt get_user_pages() IO paths
> (ie O_DIRECT, net zero copy TX, RDMA, etc) to support PCI BAR memory.
> 
> As all current drivers doing DMA from user space must go through
> get_user_pages() (or its new sibling hmm_range_fault()), some
> extension of the get_user_pages() API is needed to allow drivers
> supporting P2P to see the pages.
> 
> get_user_pages() will require some 'struct page' and 'struct
> vm_area_struct' representation of the BAR memory beyond what today's
> io_remap_pfn_range()/etc produces.
> 
> This topic has been discussed in small groups in various conferences
> over the last year, (plumbers, ALPSS, LSF/MM 2019, etc). Having a
> larger group together would be productive, especially as the direction
> has a notable impact on the general mm.
> 
> For patch sets, we've seen a number of attempts so far, but little has
> been merged yet. Common elements of past discussions have been:
>  - Building struct page for BAR memory
>  - Stuffing BAR memory into scatter/gather lists, bios and skbs
>  - DMA mapping BAR memory
>  - Referencing BAR memory without a struct page
>  - Managing lifetime of BAR memory across multiple drivers
> 
> Based on past work, the people in the CC list would be recommended
> participants:
> 
>  Christian König <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx>
>  Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx>
>  Logan Gunthorpe <logang@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  Stephen Bates <sbates@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@xxxxxxxxxx>
>  Ira Weiny <iweiny@xxxxxxxxx>
>  Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxx>
>  John Hubbard <jhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx>
>  Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@xxxxxxxxxx>
>  Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@xxxxxxxxx>
>  Don Dutile <ddutile@xxxxxxxxxx>

That's a long list, and you're missing 

"Thomas Hellström (VMware)" <thomas_os@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@xxxxxxxxxx>

both of whom have been working on related projects (for PFNs without pages).
Hey, you missed me too!  ;-)




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