On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 05:53:07PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 04:37:14PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mika Westerberg > > <mika.westerberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 01:11:52PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:09 PM Mika Westerberg > > > > <mika.westerberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:58:00PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote: > > > > > > overall, what I really want to know is, _why_ does it work on windows? > > > > > > > > > > So do I ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > Or what are we doing differently on Linux so that it doesn't work? If > > > > > > anybody has any idea on how we could dig into this and figure it out > > > > > > on this level, this would probably allow us to get closer to the root > > > > > > cause? no? > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried to use the acpi_rev_override parameter in your system and > > > > > does it have any effect? > > > > > > > > > > Also did you try to trace the ACPI _ON/_OFF() methods? I think that > > > > > should hopefully reveal something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I did in the past and it seemed to have worked, there is just > > > > one big issue with this: it's a Dell specific workaround afaik, and > > > > this issue plagues not just Dell, but we've seen it on HP and Lenovo > > > > laptops as well, and I've heard about users having the same issues on > > > > Asus and MSI laptops as well. > > > > > > Maybe it is not a workaround at all but instead it simply determines > > > whether the system supports RTD3 or something like that (IIRC Windows 8 > > > started supporting it). Maybe Dell added check for Linux because at that > > > time Linux did not support it. > > > > > > > the point is, it's not checking it by default, so by default you still > > run into the windows 8 codepath. > > Well you can add the quirk to acpi_rev_dmi_table[] so it goes to that > path by default. There are a bunch of similar entries for Dell machines. > > Of course this does not help the non-Dell users so we would still need > to figure out the root cause. I think I asked you to test the PCIe delay patch and it did not help but I wonder if it helps if we increase the delay. As an experiment could you try Bjorn's pci/pm branch. The last two commits are for the delay. If you could pull that branch and apply the following patch on top and give it a try? Then post the dmesg somewhere so we can see whether it did the delay at all. diff --git a/drivers/pci/pci.c b/drivers/pci/pci.c index 1f319b1175da..1ad6f1372ed5 100644 --- a/drivers/pci/pci.c +++ b/drivers/pci/pci.c @@ -4697,12 +4697,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev) return; } - /* Take d3cold_delay requirements into account */ - delay = pci_bus_max_d3cold_delay(dev->subordinate); - if (!delay) { - up_read(&pci_bus_sem); - return; - } + delay = 500; child = list_first_entry(&dev->subordinate->devices, struct pci_dev, bus_list); @@ -4715,7 +4710,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev) * management for them (see pci_bridge_d3_possible()). */ if (!pci_is_pcie(dev)) { - pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for secondary bus\n", 1000 + delay); + pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for secondary bus\n", 1000 + delay); msleep(1000 + delay); return; } @@ -4741,10 +4736,10 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev) return; if (pcie_get_speed_cap(dev) <= PCIE_SPEED_5_0GT) { - pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link\n", delay); + pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link\n", delay); msleep(delay); } else { - pci_dbg(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link, after activation\n", + pci_info(dev, "waiting %d ms for downstream link, after activation\n", delay); if (!pcie_wait_for_link_delay(dev, true, delay)) { /* Did not train, no need to wait any further */ @@ -4753,7 +4748,7 @@ void pci_bridge_wait_for_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev) } if (!pci_device_is_present(child)) { - pci_dbg(child, "waiting additional %d ms to become accessible\n", delay); + pci_info(child, "waiting additional %d ms to become accessible\n", delay); msleep(delay); } }