Re: [PATCH v5 03/23] PCI: hotplug: Add a flag for the movable BARs feature

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On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 03:59:25PM +0300, Sergey Miroshnichenko wrote:
> Hello Bjorn,
> 
> On 9/28/19 1:02 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:50:41PM +0300, Sergey Miroshnichenko wrote:
> > > When hot-adding a device, the bridge may have windows not big enough (or
> > > fragmented too much) for newly requested BARs to fit in. And expanding
> > > these bridge windows may be impossible because blocked by "neighboring"
> > > BARs and bridge windows.
> > > 
> > > Still, it may be possible to allocate a memory region for new BARs with the
> > > following procedure:
> > > 
> > > 1) notify all the drivers which support movable BARs to pause and release
> > >     the BARs; the rest of the drivers are guaranteed that their devices will
> > >     not get BARs moved;
> > > 
> > > 2) release all the bridge windows except of root bridges;
> > > 
> > > 3) try to recalculate new bridge windows that will fit all the BAR types:
> > >     - fixed;
> > >     - immovable;
> > >     - movable;
> > >     - newly requested by hot-added devices;
> > > 
> > > 4) if the previous step fails, disable BARs for one of the hot-added
> > >     devices and retry from step 3;
> > > 
> > > 5) notify the drivers, so they remap BARs and resume.
> > 
> > You don't do the actual recalculation in *this* patch, but since you
> > mention the procedure here, are we confident that we never make things
> > worse?
> > 
> > It's possible that a hot-add will trigger this attempt to move things
> > around, and it's possible that we won't find space for the new device
> > even if we move things around.  But are we certain that every device
> > that worked *before* the hot-add will still work *afterwards*?
> > 
> > Much of the assignment was probably done by the BIOS using different
> > algorithms than Linux has, so I think there's some chance that the
> > BIOS did a better job and if we lose that BIOS assignment, we might
> > not be able to recreate it.
> 
> If a hardware has some special constraints on BAR assignment that the
> kernel is not aware of yet, the movable BARs may break things after a
> hotplug event. So the feature must be disabled there (manually) until
> the kernel get support for that special needs.

I'm not talking about special constraints on BAR assignment.  (I'm not
sure what those constraints would be -- AFAIK the constraints for a
spec-compliant device are all discoverable via the BAR size and type
(or the Enhanced Allocation capability)).

What I'm concerned about is the case where we boot with a working
assignment, we hot-add a device, we move things around to try to
accommodate the new device, and not only do we fail to find resources
for the new device, we also fail to find a working assignment for the
devices that were present at boot.  We've moved things around from
what BIOS did, and since we use a different algorithm than the BIOS,
there's no guarantee that we'll be able to find the assignment BIOS
did.

> > I'm not sure why the PCI_CLASS_DISPLAY_VGA special case is there; can
> > you add a comment about why that's needed?  Obviously we can't move
> > the 0xa0000 legacy frame buffer because I think devices are allowed to
> > claim that region even if no BAR describes it.  But I would think
> > *other* BARs of VGA devices could be movable.
> 
> Sure, I'll add a comment to the code.
> 
> The issue that we are avoiding by that is the "nomodeset" command line
> argument, which prevents a video driver from being bound, so the BARs
> are seems to be used, but can't be moved, otherwise machines just hang
> after hotplug events. That was the only special ugly case we've
> spotted during testing. I'll check if it will be enough just to work
> around the 0xa0000.

"nomodeset" is not really documented and is a funny way to say "don't
bind video drivers that know about it", but OK.  Thanks for checking
on the other BARs.

> > > +bool pci_movable_bars_enabled(void);
> > 
> > I would really like it if this were simply
> > 
> >    extern bool pci_no_movable_bars;
> > 
> > in drivers/pci/pci.h.  It would default to false since it's
> > uninitialized, and "pci=no_movable_bars" would set it to true.
> 
> I have a premonition of platforms that will not support the feature.
> Wouldn't be better to put this variable-flag to include/linux/pci.h ,
> so code in arch/* can set it, so they could work by default, without
> the command line argument?

In general I don't see why a platform wouldn't support this since
there really isn't anything platform-specific here.  But if a platform
does need to disable it, having arch code set this flag sounds
reasonable.  We shouldn't make it globally visible until we actually
need that, though.

> > We have similar "=off" and "=force" parameters for ASPM and other
> > things, and it makes the code really hard to analyze.

The "=off" and "=force" things are the biggest things I'd like to
avoid.

Bjorn



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