On 07/24/2018 08:40 AM, Tal Gilboa wrote: > On 7/24/2018 2:59 AM, Alex G. wrote: >> >> >> On 07/23/2018 05:14 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote: >>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:52:22 +0300, Tal Gilboa wrote: >>>> On 7/24/2018 12:01 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 15:03:38 -0500, Alexandru Gagniuc wrote: >>>>>> PCIe downtraining happens when both the device and PCIe port are >>>>>> capable of a larger bus width or higher speed than negotiated. >>>>>> Downtraining might be indicative of other problems in the system, and >>>>>> identifying this from userspace is neither intuitive, nor >>>>>> straightforward. >>>>>> >>>>>> The easiest way to detect this is with pcie_print_link_status(), >>>>>> since the bottleneck is usually the link that is downtrained. It's not >>>>>> a perfect solution, but it works extremely well in most cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Alexandru Gagniuc <mr.nuke.me@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> >>>>>> For the sake of review, I've created a __pcie_print_link_status() >>>>>> which >>>>>> takes a 'verbose' argument. If we agree want to go this route, and >>>>>> update >>>>>> the users of pcie_print_link_status(), I can split this up in two >>>>>> patches. >>>>>> I prefer just printing this information in the core functions, and >>>>>> letting >>>>>> drivers not have to worry about this. Though there seems to be >>>>>> strong for >>>>>> not going that route, so here it goes: >>>>> >>>>> FWIW the networking drivers print PCIe BW because sometimes the network >>>>> bandwidth is simply over-provisioned on multi port cards, e.g. 80Gbps >>>>> card on a x8 link. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to bike shed, but currently the networking cards print the info >>>>> during probe. Would it make sense to move your message closer to probe >>>>> time? Rather than when device is added. If driver structure is >>>>> available, we could also consider adding a boolean to struct pci_driver >>>>> to indicate if driver wants the verbose message? This way we avoid >>>>> duplicated prints. >>>>> >>>>> I have no objection to current patch, it LGTM. Just a thought. >>>> >>>> I don't see the reason for having two functions. What's the problem with >>>> adding the verbose argument to the original function? >>> >>> IMHO it's reasonable to keep the default parameter to what 90% of users >>> want by a means on a wrapper. The non-verbose output is provided by >>> the core already for all devices. >>> >>> What do you think of my proposal above Tal? That would make the extra >>> wrapper unnecessary since the verbose parameter would be part of the >>> driver structure, and it would avoid the duplicated output. >> >> I see how it might make sense to add another member to the driver >> struct, but is it worth the extra learning curve? It seems to be >> something with the potential to confuse new driver developers, and >> having a very marginal benefit. >> Although, if that's what people want... > > I prefer the wrapper function. Looking at struct pci_driver it would > seem strange for it to hold a field for controlling verbosity (IMO). > This is a very (very) specific field in a very general struct. If people are okay with the wrapper, then I'm not going to update the patch. Alex