RE: Support SVM without PASID

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> From: Jean-Philippe Brucker [mailto:jean-philippe.brucker@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 8:52 PM
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> On 07/08/17 13:18, Bob Liu wrote:
> > On 2017/8/7 18:31, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> >> On 05/08/17 06:14, valmiki wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>> Hi Jean, Thanks a lot, now i understood the flow. From vfio kernel
> >>> documentation we fill vaddr and iova in struct
> vfio_iommu_type1_dma_map
> >>> and pass them to VFIO. But if we use dynamic allocation in application
> >>> (say malloc), do we need to use dma API to get iova and then call
> >>> VFIO_IOMMU_MAP ioctl ?
> >>> If application needs multiple such dynamic allocations, then it need to
> >>> allocate large chunk and program it via VFIO_IOMMU_MAP ioctl and
> then
> >>> manage rest allocations requirements from this buffer ?
> >>
> >> Yes, without SVM, the application allocates large buffers, allocates IOVAs
> >> itself, and maps them with VFIO_IOMMU_MAP. Userspace doesn't rely on
> the
> >> DMA API at all, it manages IOVAs as it wants. Sizes passed to
> >> VFIO_IOMMU_MAP have to be multiples of the MMU or IOMMU page
> granularity
> >> (that is at least 4kB), and both iova and vaddr have to be aligned on that
> >> granularity as well. So malloc isn't really suitable in this case, you'll
> >> need mmap. The application can then implement a small allocator to
> manage
> >> the DMA pool created with VFIO_IOMMU_MAP.
> >>
> >> With SVM the application binds its address space to the device, and then
> >> uses malloc for all DMA buffers, no need for VFIO_IOMMU_MAP.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Jean,
> >
> > I think there is another way to support SVM without PASID.
> >
> > Suppose there is a device in the same SOC-chip, the device access memory
> through SMMU(using internal bus instead of PCIe)
> > Once page fault, the device send an event with (vaddr, substreamID) to
> SMMU, then SMMU triggers an event interrupt.
> >
> > In the event interrupt handler, we can implement the same logic as PRI
> interrupt in your patch.
> > What do you think about that?
> What you're describing is the SMMU stall model for platform devices. From
> the driver perspective it's the same as PRI and PASID (SubstreamID=PASID).
> 
> When a stall-capable device accesses unmapped memory, the SMMU parks
> the
> transaction and sends an event marked "stall" on the event queue, with a
> stall tag (STAG, roughly equivalent to PRG Index). The OS handles the
> fault and sends a CMD_RESUME command with the status and the STAG.
> Then
> the SMMU completes the access or terminates it.

Can such platform device send multiple SubstreamIDs, or one ID per
device? 

Thanks
Kevin



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