On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 11:54:32AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 01:02:14PM -0500, Keith Busch wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:09:06AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > > Sorry I haven't had a chance to look at these yet. I want to think > > > about them a little more because it seems like these should be > > > optimizations, not really fixes. If they improve stability by fixing > > > Linux issues, details of those issues would help. But maybe the > > > improvement is from avoiding things the hardware doesn't handle quite > > > correctly. > > > > I also think o this mainly as an optimization since it significantly > > speeds up the hot removal of larger PCIe hierarchies. If this also happens > > to improve hot plug stability on hardware (which I understand it does), > > that's just a bonus, but the patch should be able to stand on its own > > merits without considering hardware issues. > > In the pciehp thread, you cited performance improvements of seconds to > microseconds. That's *huge*. Can you give a few details in the > patches that realize that improvement (2 & 3, I think) about how they > account for it? Are we simply avoiding seconds worth of config > accesses (I know they're not fast, but we can still do an awful lot > of them in a second), or are we avoiding timeouts somewhere, or what? Depending on the device and the driver, there are hundreds to thousands of non-posted transactions submitted to the device to complete driver unbinding and removal. Since the device is gone, hardware has to handle that as an error condition, which is slower than the a successful non-posted transaction. Since we're doing 1000 of them for no particular reason, it takes a long time. If you hot remove a switch with multiple downstream devices, the serialized removal adds up to many seconds. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-pci" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
