RE: Shouldn't VFIO virtualize the ATS capability?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 5:08 PM
> To: Ilya Lesokhin <ilyal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: linux-pci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx;
> Adi Menachem <adim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Shouldn't VFIO virtualize the ATS capability?
> 
> On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 14:49:02 +0000
> Ilya Lesokhin <ilyal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > I would virtualize the "ATS Control Register".
> 
> And do what?
I think it should be read only.
> 
> > Regarding poor behavior, I couldn't really find what happens when ATS is
> misconfigured, but I would assume it can cause problems.
> > The scenarios I'm concerned about are:
> > 	1. The guest enables translation caching, while the hypervisor thinks
> there are disabled -> Hypervisor won't issue invalidations.
> 
> Aren't invalidations issued by the iommu, why does the hypervisor need to
> participate?  How would a software entity induce an invalidation?
That's what one might expect from a sane design, but
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c?v=4.8#L1549
seems to imply otherwise :(
> 
> > 	2. Smallest Translation Unit misconfiguration. Not sure if it will cause
> invalid access or only poor caching behavior.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ilya
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:09 PM
> > > To: Ilya Lesokhin <ilyal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: linux-pci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> > > bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: Shouldn't VFIO virtualize the ATS capability?
> > >
> > > On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 11:13:09 +0000
> > > Ilya Lesokhin <ilyal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > I've noticed that VFIO doesn't virtualize the ATS capability.
> > > > It seems to me that translation caching and Smallest Translation
> > > > Unit is
> > > something you would want to control on the host. Am I wrong?
> > >
> > > What about those fields would we virtualize?  Why does the host need
> > > to be an intermediary?  Can the user induce poor behavior with
> > > direct access to them?  Thanks,
> > >
> > > Alex

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