Re: [PATCH] PCI: Wait for 50ms after bridge is powered up

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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:45:57PM +0200, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > The PCI PM specification version 1.2 says this in chapter 4.2 (page 37):
> > 
> >   There is a minimum time requirement of 50 ms which must be provided by
> >   system software between when the bus is switched from B2 to B0 and
> >   when a function on the bus is accessed to allow time for the clock to
> >   start up and the bus to settle.
> 
> But why do we wait 50 ms when *suspending*, i.e. going from B0 to B2?

I guess because PCI requires delays of 10ms for both directions D0 <->
D3hot (see pci_raw_set_power_state()).

> (Assuming B2 is the state when the bridge goes to D3hot, which I'm not
> sure of. The spec says that the bus state may optionally be B3 if the
> bridge is in D3hot.)

B3 is the state where the bus goes when it's power is removed so I would
expect that to require also the 50ms even though the spec does not
explicitly say so.

> > Not sure how much of that still applies to modern hardware.
> 
> Could you ask hardware engineers at Intel what the bus state is on
> modern chipsets (say, ILK or newer) and Thunderbolt ports to clarify
> this?

I can try but it is not always easy to find the right person in company
as big as Intel.
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