On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 05:32:52PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 05:09:10PM +0100, Liviu Dudau wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 05:49:18PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > On Friday 09 October 2015 16:44:08 Mark Rutland wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 03:11:07PM +0100, Liviu Dudau wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 08:54:33AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote: > > > > > Or maybe I can claim the use of the string on account on being the first on arm64 > > > > > > > > > > I can add a vendor prefix if you want, but pci-host-generic is going to ignore it > > > > > *because* it is trying to be a generic driver. > > > > > > > > The point here is to have the string ready if we need it later, so it's > > > > fine that it's not used currently. > > > > > > > > Rob's suggestion is that the compatible list should look something like: > > > > > > > > compatible = "arm,juno-r1-pcie", "plda,xpressrich3", "pci-host-ecam-generic"; > > > > > > > > We can match on "pci-host-ecam-generic" for now (and hopefully forever), > > > > but if for some reason we need to special-case this host controller (or > > > > Juno's integration thereof), we can do that based on the compatible > > > > string. > > > > > > Sounds good to me, it certainly can't hurt. > > > > > > Arnd > > > > Hmm, I'm sorry, but this time I'm going to disagree. > > > > I understand the principle that the DTS is a description of the > > hardware and it should not have any built in knowledge of how a driver > > works but describe the physical properties of the device (where such > > description makes sense, in this case it does). > > > > However, when ARM has created the Juno platform it has also created a > > standard called SBSA and has claimed that Juno is compliant with that > > standard. My current position (and it used to be MarkR's as well when > > we have argued internally the pros and cons of having a bespoke driver > > for PLDA's XpressRICH3) is that SBSA compliant behaviour *is* the > > expected behaviour and if the device doesn't conform it needs to be > > fixed in firmware. > > We are not arguing for a bespoke driver, and in fact we hope to never > have to use the addition strings. > > However, experience shows that we might not be lucky, and if we > encounter some bizarre quirk in future we might need to handle that by > knowing what the hardware is. > > > Otherwise, I could've posted months ago the other public driver[1] > > that I've wrote that doesn't depend on firmware and could have been > > done with this long time ago. > > We're not arguing for kernel support code. What we're arguing for is > data in the DTB that ideally turns out to be irrelevant. > > I can't see why you object to that. It is not a strong objection but I don't want to ever have to add bespoke code to the pci-host-generic.c driver so adding a compatible property that is going to be ignored is kind of pointless. Yes, one will have a better idea on what the hardware actually is, but so what? I will send a v2 with the added values. Best regards, Liviu > > Mark. > -- ==================== | I would like to | | fix the world, | | but they're not | | giving me the | \ source code! / --------------- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-pci" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html