Hello; When I mention taking down the PCI bus, what I imply is that when I compare the before and after status of devices on the PCI buses using "lspci -vv", I saw many 0xffffffffs and device memory and ports marked as "disabled". I (naively and likely wrongly) understood that if the PCI bus (or devices on them) detects a bus fault, or suffer failure, the devices on it become disabled as a result? Either way, that is where I got the idea that a bus is down, not just a single specific device. During troubleshooting I removed the ata7 and ata8 devices you mentioned from the machine (as well as all other ata devices except for the main disk), and all extraneous pci cards. Still crashed as evidenced by the onboard ethernet failing. I then disabled the onboard ethernet and installed a separate PCI ethernet card and the network still failed (i'll look at my notes, but that is what I recall). Another reason I was looking at the PCI bus as the failure point. And all these devices work flawlessly, heavily loaded, by themselves or in tandem. As well when running heavy graphics and steam games under fglrx. But only when an impending flash fault hasn't yet created a failure. It is outside my experience level, but I will try to git an appropriate kernel, compile it, and get it to run on my system if possible - it is my sole working machine. If I am successful, I will attempt to open a bug report with the information you have requested. And yes, on my Fedora 19 3.14.17-100 config the default is CONFIG_PCIEAER=y so the dmesg you see is complete. I did try a debug kernels, but the output was always as sparse. Thank You for your time. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-pci" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html