On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 05:26:32PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote: > On 8/28/2024 16:42, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 04:24:01PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote: > > > On 8/27/2024 18:48, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > After a device reset, pci_dev_wait() waits for a device to become > > > > completely ready by polling the PCI_COMMAND register. The spec envisions > > > > that software would instead poll for the device to stop responding to > > > > config reads with Completions with Request Retry Status (RRS). > > > > > > > > Polling PCI_COMMAND leads to hardware retries that are invisible to > > > > software and the backoff between software retries doesn't work correctly. > > > > > > > > Root Ports are not required to support the Configuration RRS Software > > > > Visibility feature that prevents hardware retries and makes the RRS > > > > Completions visible to software, so this series only uses it when available > > > > and falls back to PCI_COMMAND polling when it's not. > > > > > > > > This is completely untested and posted for comments. > > > > > > > > Bjorn Helgaas (3): > > > > PCI: Wait for device readiness with Configuration RRS > > > > PCI: aardvark: Correct Configuration RRS checking > > > > PCI: Rename CRS Completion Status to RRS > > > > > > > > drivers/bcma/driver_pci_host.c | 10 ++-- > > > > drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-tegra194.c | 18 +++--- > > > > drivers/pci/controller/pci-aardvark.c | 64 +++++++++++----------- > > > > drivers/pci/controller/pci-xgene.c | 6 +- > > > > drivers/pci/controller/pcie-iproc.c | 18 +++--- > > > > drivers/pci/pci-bridge-emul.c | 4 +- > > > > drivers/pci/pci.c | 41 +++++++++----- > > > > drivers/pci/pci.h | 11 +++- > > > > drivers/pci/probe.c | 33 +++++------ > > > > include/linux/bcma/bcma_driver_pci.h | 2 +- > > > > include/linux/pci.h | 1 + > > > > include/uapi/linux/pci_regs.h | 6 +- > > > > 12 files changed, 117 insertions(+), 97 deletions(-) > > > > > > Although this looks like a useful series, I'm sorry to say but > > > this doesn't solve the issue that Gary and I raised. We double > > > checked today and found that reading the vendor ID works just > > > fine at this time. > > > > Thanks for testing that. > > Sure. > > > > I think that we're still better off polling PCI_PM_CTRL to > > > "wait" for D0 after the state change from D3cold. > > > > Is there some spec justification for polling PCI_PM_CTRL? I'm > > dubious about doing that just because "it works" in this > > situation, unless we have some better understanding about *why* it > > works and whether all devices are supposed to work that way. > > I mentioned this a little bit in my patch 3/5 in my submission. The > issue isn't "normal" D3cold exit that is fully settled down. That > takes ~6ms from measurements. The issue is how long it takes for > D3cold *entry* followed by *exit*. I think we should have this conversation in the context of your series (https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240823154023.360234-1-superm1@xxxxxxxxxx) because PCI_PM_CTRL questions are more relevant there, so I'll respond there. > When this issue occurs it's tied with a tight loop of runtime PM > entry and exit happening in that short window. That's why it can be > tripped by unplugging a dock, waiting until ~approximately > autosuspend delay and plugging it back in. If you catch the right > timing then the USB4 router is still on its way down to D3cold. > > In terms of a way to match this problem to the spec, the closest I > could think is PCI-PM spec. > > But I do see in the PCI-PM spec that the delay for D0->D3hot should > be 10ms. In the Linux kernel implementation __pci_set_power_state() > when called with D3cold calls pci_set_low_power_state() which does > wait 10ms followed by using the platform to remove power. > > I can't find any timing requirements for D3hot->D3cold transition > though. > > I would hypothesize that if we injected a longer delay on the "other > end" for the D3cold transition entry it would solve this issue as > well though.