On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 12:03:17PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 04:57:40PM -0700, Dave Jiang wrote: > > > On 3/27/24 2:26 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 04:58:01PM -0700, Dave Jiang wrote: > > > >> +/* Compute Express Link (CXL) */ > > > >> +#define PCI_DVSEC_VENDOR_ID_CXL 0x1e98 > > > > > > > > I see that you're just moving this #define from drivers/cxl/cxlpci.h, > > > > but I'm scratching my head a bit. As used here, this is to match the > > > > DVSEC Vendor ID (PCIe r6.0, sec 7.9.6.2). > > > > > > > > IIUC, this should be just a PCI SIG-defined "Vendor ID", e.g., > > > > "PCI_VENDOR_ID_CXL", that doesn't need the "DVSEC" qualifier in the > > > > name, and would normally be defined in include/linux/pci_ids.h. > > > > > > > > But I don't see CXL in pci_ids.h, and I don't see either "CXL" or the > > > > value "1e98" in the PCI SIG list at > > > > https://pcisig.com/membership/member-companies. > > > > > > > I'll create a new patch and move to include/linux/pci_ids.h first > > > for this define and change to PCI_VENDOR_ID_CXL. The value is > > > defined in CXL spec r3.1 sec 8.1.1. > > > > I saw the CXL mentions of 0x1e98, but IMO that's not an authoritative > > source; no vendor is allowed to just squat on a Vendor ID value simply > > by mentioning it in their own internal specs. That would obviously > > lead to madness. > > > > The footnote in CXL r3.1, sec 3.1.2, about how the 1E98h value is only > > for use in DVSEC etc., is really weird. > > > > IIUC, the PCI SIG controls the Vendor ID namespace, so I'm still > > really confused about why it is not reserved there. I emailed the PCI > > SIG, but the footnote suggests to me that there some kind of history > > here that I don't know. > > > > Anyway, I think all we can do here is to put the definition in > > include/linux/pci_ids.h as you did and hope 0x1e98 is never allocated > > to another vendor. > > Oh, true, I think this should be PCI_DVSEC_VENDOR_ID_CXL, because afaics > it is still possible that 0x1e98 be used as a non-DVSEC vendor-id in > some future device. What a disaster that would be. > In other words I think the CXL specification usage of 0x1e98 is scoped > as "DVSEC Vendor ID", not "Vendor ID". > > However that would mean that a future 0x1e98 device could not publish > DVSECs without colliding with CXL DVSECs. > > I note this footnote in section 3.1.2 about the 0x1e98 value (all caps > emphasis is from the spec, not me): > > --- > NOTICE TO USERS: THE UNIQUE VALUE THAT IS PROVIDED IN THIS CXL SPECIFICATION IS > FOR USE IN VENDOR DEFINED MESSAGE FIELDS, DESIGNATED VENDOR SPECIFIC EXTENDED > CAPABILITIES, AND ALTERNATE PROTOCOL NEGOTIATION ONLY... Right, that's the one I thought was really weird. No sane person would put crap like that in a spec, which is why I thought there must be some "interesting" history behind it. Sigh.