Re: [PATCH] PCI: Allocate maximum available buses to help extending the daisy chain

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On 12/8/2023 16:44, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 04:29:42PM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
On 12/8/2023 16:24, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 10:49:23AM +0530, Sanath S wrote:
In the case of Thunderbolt, it contains a PCIe switch and one or
more hotplug-capable PCIe downstream ports where the daisy chain
can be extended.

Currently when a Thunderbolt Dock is plugged in during S5/Reboot,
System BIOS allocates a very minimal number of buses for bridges and
hot-plug capable PCIe downstream ports to enumerate the dock during
boot. Because of this, we run out of bus space pretty quickly when
more PCIe devices are attached to hotplug downstream ports in order
to extend the chain.

Before:
             +-04.0
             +-04.1-[63-c1]----00.0-[64-69]--+-00.0-[65]--
             |                               +-01.0-[66]--
             |                               +-02.0-[67]--
             |                               +-03.0-[68]--
             |                               \-04.0-[69]--
             +-08.0

Looks like a clear issue here because there's no other use for
buses 70-c1.  But what would happen if there were more hotplug-capable
downstream ports, e.g., assume one at 08.1 leading to [bus c2-c7]?

The 04.1 bridge has a lot of space, but 08.1 has very little.  With
this patch, would we distribute it more evenly across 04.1 and 08.1?
If not, I think we'll just have the same problem when somebody plugs
in a similar hierarchy at 08.1.

In case of a thunderbolt capable bridge, reconfigure the buses allocated
by BIOS to the maximum available buses. So that the hot-plug bridges gets
maximum buses and chain can be extended to accommodate more PCIe devices.
This fix is necessary for all the PCIe downstream ports where the daisy
chain can be extended.

After:
             +-04.0
             +-04.1-[63-c1]----00.0-[64-c1]--+-00.0-[65]--
             |                               +-01.0-[66-84]--
             |                               +-02.0-[85-a3]--
             |                               +-03.0-[a4-c0]--
             |                               \-04.0-[c1]--
             +-08.0

This doesn't look like anything specific to Thunderbolt; it's just
that we don't do a good job of reassigning bus numbers in general,
right?  We shouldn't just punt and say "BIOS should have done
something" because not all machines *have* BIOS, and the OS can
reconfigure bus numbers as needed.  The patch certainly isn't
Thunderbolt-specific.

 From the discussions Sanath and I have been in related to this issue
the BIOS is pretty static with it's initialization under the
presumption that the OS will rebalance things if necessary.
...

For this particular issue it's being approached a different way.

Windows never rebalances things but doesn't suffer from this issue.
That's because Windows actually does a "Downstream port reset" when
it encounters a USB4 router.

Sanath posted a quirk that aligned this behavior when encountering
an AMD USB4 router, but as part of the discussion I suggested that
we do it for everyone.

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/20231123065739.GC1074920@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/

So Sanath has a new patch that does this that is under testing right
now and will be posted soon.

Hmm, ok.  I don't know what a "downstream port reset" does or how it
resolves the bus number allocation issue, but I'm happy if you have a
fix that doesn't need PCI core changes.

Bjorn

The issue is specifically with resources that were assigned with BIOS in this "static case". The downstream port reset ends up resetting the topology and thus the resources get assigned by Linux instead and will
be better balanced for more devices to be daisy chained.





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