On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 08:28:51AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote: > On 9/18/2023 08:24, Lukas Wunner wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 08:14:21AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote: > > > What's the history behind why userspace is allowed to opt a device out of > > > D3cold in the first place? > > > > > > It feels like it should have been a debugging only thing to me. > > > > That's a fair question. > > > > Apparently the default for d3cold_allowed was originally "false" > > and user space could opt in to D3cold. Then commit 4f9c1397e2e8 > > ("PCI/PM: Enable D3/D3cold by default for most devices") changed > > the default to "true". That was 11 years ago. > > > > I agree that today this should all work automatically and a > > user space option to disable D3cold on a per-device basis only > > really makes sense as a debugging aid, hence belongs in debugfs. > > > > Thanks. Then perhaps as part of moving it to debugfs it makes sense to > simplify the logic. d3cold_allowed is documented in Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-pci, so it's user space ABI which we're not allowed to break. We'd have to declare it deprecated, emit a warning when it's used and slowly phase it out over the years. Until then, the $SUBJECT_PATCH probably still makes sense to reinstate the behavior we had until 2016... Thanks, Lukas