Re: [Bug 217321] New: Intel platforms can't sleep deeper than PC3 during long idle

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On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 5:23 PM Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> [+cc Koba, Ajay, Tasev, Mark, Thomas, regressions list]
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 03:42:29PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 08:32:04AM +0000, bugzilla-daemon@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217321
> > > ...
> > >         Regression: No
> > >
> > > [Symptom]
> > > Intel cpu can't sleep deeper than pcˇ during long idle
> > > ~~~
> > > Pkg%pc2 Pkg%pc3 Pkg%pc6 Pkg%pc7 Pkg%pc8 Pkg%pc9 Pk%pc10
> > > 15.08   75.02   0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
> > > 15.09   75.02   0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
> > > ^CPkg%pc2       Pkg%pc3 Pkg%pc6 Pkg%pc7 Pkg%pc8 Pkg%pc9 Pk%pc10
> > > 15.38   68.97   0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
> > > 15.38   68.96   0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
> > > ~~~
> > > [How to Reproduce]
> > > 1. run turbostat to monitor
> > > 2. leave machine idle
> > > 3. turbostat show cpu only go into pc2~pc3.
> > >
> > > [Misc]
> > > The culprit are this
> > > a7152be79b62) Revert "PCI/ASPM: Save L1 PM Substates Capability for
> > > suspend/resume”
> > >
> > > if revert a7152be79b62, the issue is gone
> >
> > Relevant commits:
> >
> >   4ff116d0d5fd ("PCI/ASPM: Save L1 PM Substates Capability for suspend/resume")
> >   a7152be79b62 ("Revert "PCI/ASPM: Save L1 PM Substates Capability for suspend/resume"")
> >
> > 4ff116d0d5fd appeared in v6.1-rc1.  Prior to 4ff116d0d5fd, ASPM L1 PM
> > Substates configuration was not preserved across suspend/resume, so
> > the system *worked* after resume, but used more power than expected.
> >
> > But 4ff116d0d5fd caused resume to fail completely on some systems, so
> > a7152be79b62 reverted it.  With a7152be79b62 reverted, ASPM L1 PM
> > Substates configuration is likely not preserved across suspend/resume.
> > a7152be79b62 appeared in v6.2-rc8 and was backported to the v6.1
> > stable series starting with v6.1.12.
> >
> > KobaKo, you don't mention any suspend/resume in this bug report, but
> > neither patch should make any difference unless suspend/resume is
> > involved.  Does the platform sleep as expected *before* suspend, but
> > fail to sleep after resume?
> >
> > Or maybe some individual device was suspended via runtime power
> > management, and that device lost its L1 PM Substates config?  I don't
> > know if there's a way to disable runtime PM easily.
>
> Koba, per your bugzilla update, the issue happens even without
> suspend/resume.  And we don't know whether some particular device is
> responsible.
>
> But if we save/restore L1SS state, we can sleep deeper than PC3.  If
> we don't preserve L1SS state, we can't.
>
> We definitely want to preserve the L1SS state, but we can't simply
> apply 4ff116d0d5fd ("PCI/ASPM: Save L1 PM Substates Capability for
> suspend/resume") again because it caused its own regressions [1,2,3]
>
> So somebody needs to figure out what was wrong with 4ff116d0d5fd, fix
> it, verify that it doesn't cause the issues reported by Tasev, Thomas,
> and Mark, and then we can apply it.
>
> Bjorn

Good days, discussed with Kai-Heng and he mentioned  the GPU may not
be pulled off the power.
then the GPU needs L1ss to get into power saving.

I will investigate further on this way.

>
> [1] https://git.kernel.org/linus/a7152be79b62
> [2] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216782
> [3] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216877




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