On 21-11-24 11:56:36, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:54 AM Jonathan Cameron
> <Jonathan.Cameron@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 09:17:31 -0800
> > Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > On 21-11-22 15:02:27, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 16:02:31 -0800
> > > > Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The original driver implementation used the doorbell timeout for the
> > > > > Mailbox Interface Ready bit to piggy back off of, since the latter
> > > > > doesn't have a defined timeout. This functionality, introduced in
> > > > > 8adaf747c9f0 ("cxl/mem: Find device capabilities"), can now be improved
> > > > > since a timeout has been defined with an ECN to the 2.0 spec.
> > > > >
> > > > > While devices implemented prior to the ECN could have an arbitrarily
> > > > > long wait and still be within spec, the max ECN value (256s) is chosen
> > > > > as the default for all devices. All vendors in the consortium agreed to
> > > > > this amount and so it is reasonable to assume no devices made will
> > > > > exceed this amount.
> > > >
> > > > Optimistic :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Reasonable to assume is certainly not the same as "in reality". I can soften
> > > this wording.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > This patch did not exist in RFCv2
> > > > > ---
> > > > > drivers/cxl/pci.c | 29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > 1 file changed, 29 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/cxl/pci.c b/drivers/cxl/pci.c
> > > > > index 6c8d09fb3a17..2cef9fec8599 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/cxl/pci.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/cxl/pci.c
> > > > > @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
> > > > > /* Copyright(c) 2020 Intel Corporation. All rights reserved. */
> > > > > #include <linux/io-64-nonatomic-lo-hi.h>
> > > > > #include <linux/module.h>
> > > > > +#include <linux/delay.h>
> > > > > #include <linux/sizes.h>
> > > > > #include <linux/mutex.h>
> > > > > #include <linux/list.h>
> > > > > @@ -298,6 +299,34 @@ static int cxl_pci_mbox_send(struct cxl_dev_state *cxlds, struct cxl_mbox_cmd *c
> > > > > static int cxl_pci_setup_mailbox(struct cxl_dev_state *cxlds)
> > > > > {
> > > > > const int cap = readl(cxlds->regs.mbox + CXLDEV_MBOX_CAPS_OFFSET);
> > > > > + unsigned long timeout;
> > > > > + u64 md_status;
> > > > > + int rc;
> > > > > +
> > > > > + /*
> > > > > + * CXL 2.0 ECN "Add Mailbox Ready Time" defines a capability field to
> > > > > + * dictate how long to wait for the mailbox to become ready. For
> > > > > + * simplicity, and to handle devices that might have been implemented
> > > >
> > > > I'm not keen on the 'for simplicity' argument here. If the device is advertising
> > > > a lower value, then that is what we should use. It's fine to wait the max time
> > > > if nothing is specified. It'll cost us a few lines of code at most unless
> > > > I am missing something...
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan
> > > >
> > >
> > > Let me pose it a different way, if a device advertises 1s, but for whatever
> > > takes 4s to come up, should we penalize it over the device advertising 256s?
> >
> > Yes, because it is buggy. A compliance test should have failed on this anyway.
> >
> > > The
> > > way this field is defined in the spec would [IMHO] lead vendors to simply put
> > > the max field in there to game the driver, so why not start off with just
> > > insisting they don't?
> >
> > Given reading this value and getting a big number gives the implication that
> > the device is meant to be really slow to initialize, I'd expect that to push
> > vendors a little in the directly of putting realistic values in).
> >
> > Maybe we should print the value in the log to make them look silly ;)
>
> A print message on the way to a static default timeout value is about
> all a device's self reported timeout is useful.
>
> "device not ready after waiting %d seconds, continuing to wait up to %d seconds"
>
> It's also not clear to me that the Linux default timeout should be so
> generous at 256 seconds. It might be suitable to just complain about
> devices that are taking more than 60 seconds to initialize with an
> option to override that timeout for odd outliers. Otherwise encourage
> hardware implementations to beat the Linux timeout value to get
> support out of the box.
>
> I notice that not even libata waits more than a minute for a given
> device to finish post-reset shenanigans, so might as well set 60
> seconds as what the driver will tolerate out of the box.
60s is infinity, so 4x * infinity doesn't really make much difference does it
:P?
In my opinion if we're going to pick a limit, might as well tie it to a spec
definition rather than 60s.. Perhaps 60s has some relevance I'm unaware of, but
it seems equally arbitrary to me.
