RE: [PATCH] Avoid FLR for AMD Starship/Matisse Cryptographic Coprocessor

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 2:50 PM
> To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: David Jaundrew <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Bjorn Helgaas
> <bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx>; linux-pci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Deucher, Alexander
> <Alexander.Deucher@xxxxxxx>; Shah, Nehal-bakulchandra <Nehal-
> bakulchandra.Shah@xxxxxxx>; Koenig, Christian
> <Christian.Koenig@xxxxxxx>; Krzysztof Wilczyński <kw@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Avoid FLR for AMD Starship/Matisse Cryptographic
> Coprocessor
> 
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:26:12PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 20:59:02 -0500
> > Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > [+cc Alex, Krzysztof, AMD folks]
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 05:16:49PM -0700, David Jaundrew wrote:
> > > > This patch fixes another FLR bug for the Starship/Matisse controller:
> > > >
> > > > AMD Starship/Matisse Cryptogrpahic Coprocessor PSPCPP
> > > >
> > > > This patch allows functions on the same Starship/Matisse device
> > > > (such as USB controller,sound card) to properly pass through to a
> > > > guest OS using vfio-pc. Without this patch, the virtual machine
> > > > does not boot and eventually times out.
> > >
> > > Apparently yet another AMD device that advertises FLR support, but
> > > it doesn't work?
> > >
> > > I don't have a problem avoiding the FLR, but I *would* like some
> > > indication that:
> > >
> > >   - This is a known erratum and AMD has some plan to fix this in
> > >     future devices so we don't have to trip over them all
> > >     individually, and
> > >
> > >   - This is not a security issue.  Part of the reason VFIO resets
> > >     pass-through devices is to avoid leaking state from one guest to
> > >     another.  If reset doesn't work, that makes me wonder, especially
> > >     since this is a cryptographic coprocessor that sounds like it
> > >     might be full of secrets.  So I *assume* VFIO will use a different
> > >     type of reset instead of FLR, but I'm just double-checking.
> >
> > It depends on what's available, chances are not good that we have
> > another means of function level reset, so this probably means it's
> > exposed as-is.  I agree, not great for a device managing something to
> > do with cryptography.  It's potentially a better security measure to
> > let the device wedge itself.  Thanks,
> 
> OK, I think that means I need to ignore this patch until we have some
> evidence that it's actually safe to allow VFIO to pass the device through to
> another guest.
> 
> And I guess we are making the assumption that the audio, USB, and ethernet
> controllers [1] are safe to hand off between guests?  I don't know enough
> about those controllers to even have an opinion about that.  Surely there is
> config space and MMIO space that could leak data between guests?

Adding a few more AMD people.

I doubt FLR was intended to be enabled on these consumer parts, it was probably a mistake.  I'm trying to find out more internally.  In general, I suspect most vendors don't do much passthrough validation on consumer level hardware.  

> 
> Is there anything that tracks whether the device has been reset after being
> passed through to a guest?  For example, I assume the following would be
> safe if we could tell the reset had been done:
> 
>   - Pass through to guest A
>   - Guest A exits
>   - User resets all devices on bus (including this one)
>   - Pass through to guest B
> 

Probably the safest thing to do would be to not allow passthrough on any PCI devices which don't have functional FLR support.  Do other things like PCI hot resets make the same guarantees about device state that FLR does?

Alex


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> 0
> 
> > > > Excerpt from lspci -nn showing crypto function on same device as
> > > > USB and sound card (which are already listed in quirks.c):
> > > >
> > > > 0e:00.1 Encryption controller [1080]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> > > > [AMD]
> > > >   Starship/Matisse Cryptographic Coprocessor PSPCPP [1022:1486]
> > > > 0e:00.3 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
> > > >   Matisse USB 3.0 Host Controller [1022:149c]
> > > > 0e:00.4 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
> > > >   Starship/Matisse HD Audio Controller [1022:1487]
> > > >
> > > > Fix tested successfully on an Asus ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING
> > > > motherboard with AMD Ryzen 9 3900X.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: David Jaundrew <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > The patch below still doesn't apply.  Looks like maybe it was pasted
> > > into the email and the tabs got changed to space?  No worries, I can
> > > apply it manually if appropriate.
> > >
> > > > ---
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/quirks.c b/drivers/pci/quirks.c index
> > > > 6d74386eadc2..0d19e7aa219a 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> > > > @@ -5208,6 +5208,7 @@
> DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL,
> > > > 0x443, quirk_intel_qat_vf_cap);
> > > >  /*
> > > >   * FLR may cause the following to devices to hang:
> > > >   *
> > > > + * AMD Starship/Matisse Cryptographic Coprocessor PSPCPP 0x1486
> > > >   * AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio Controller 0x1487
> > > >   * AMD Starship USB 3.0 Host Controller 0x148c
> > > >   * AMD Matisse USB 3.0 Host Controller 0x149c @@ -5219,6 +5220,7
> > > > @@ static void quirk_no_flr(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > > >  {
> > > >         dev->dev_flags |= PCI_DEV_FLAGS_NO_FLR_RESET;
> > > >  }
> > > > +DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AMD, 0x1486,
> quirk_no_flr);
> > > >  DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AMD, 0x1487,
> quirk_no_flr);
> > > >  DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AMD, 0x148c,
> quirk_no_flr);
> > > >  DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AMD, 0x149c,
> quirk_no_flr);




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