It took me a while to figure out that the "New Outlook" option doesn't actually allow sending plain text, so I have to switch to "Old Outlook" mode. It is not clear as to what parameters Linux would use to consider a window broken. But if the kernel preserves some bridge window assignment, then it seems feasible for our BIOS to run this same algorithm (reading PLX persistent scratch registers to determine window sizes). I will raise this possibility with our own kernel team to discuss with the bios team. We can also look more closely at the resource_alignment options to see if that might suffice. Thanks for the information! From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 10:14 AM To: "Billie Alsup (balsup)" <balsup@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Paul Menzel <pmenzel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx>, Guohan Lu <lguohan@xxxxxxxxx>, "Madhava Reddy Siddareddygari (msiddare)" <msiddare@xxxxxxxxx>, "linux-pci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-pci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "David S. Miller" <davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@xxxxxxxxxx>, "netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sergey Miroshnichenko <s.miroshnichenko@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PCI: Reserve address space for powered-off devices behind PCIe bridges On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 04:52:26PM +0000, Billie Alsup (balsup) wrote: We are aware of how Cisco device specific this code is, and hadn't intended to upstream it. This code was originally written for an older kernel version (4.8.28-WR9.0.0.26_cgl). I am not the original author; I just ported it into various SONiC linux kernels. We use ACPI with SONiC (although not on our non-SONiC products), so I thought I might be able to define such windows within the ACPI tree and have some generic code to read such configuration information from the ACPI tables,. However, initial attempts failed so I went with the existing approach. I believe we did look at the hpmmiosize parameter, but iirc it applied to each bridge, rather than being a pool of address space to dynamically parcel out as necessary. Right. I mentioned "pci=resource_alignment=" because it claims to be able to specify window sizes for specific bridges. But I haven't exercised that myself. There are multiple bridges involved in the hardware (there are 8 hot-plug fabric cards, each with multiple PCI devices). Devices on the card are in multiple power zones, so all devices are not immediately visible to the pci scanning code. The top level bridge reserves close to 5G. The 2nd level (towards the fabric cards) reserve 4.5G. The 3rd level has 9 bridges each reserving 512M. The 4th level reserves 384M (with a 512M alignment restriction iirc). The 5th level reserves 384M (again with an alignment restriction). That defines the bridge hierarchy visible at boot. Things behind that 5th level are hot-plugged where there are two more bridge levels and 5 devices (1 requiring 2x64M blocks and 4 requiring 1x64M). I'm not sure if the Cisco kernel team has revisited the hpmmiosize and resource_alignment parameters since this initial implementation. Reading the description of Sergey's patches, he seems to be approaching the same problem from a different direction. It is unclear if such an approach is practical for our environment. It would require updates to all of our SONiC drivers to support stopping/remapping/restarting, and it is unclear if that is acceptable. It is certainly less preferable to pre-reserving the required space. For our embedded product, we know exactly what devices will be plugged in, and allowing that to be pre-programmed into the PLX eeprom gives us the flexibility we need. If you know up front what devices are possible and how much space they need, possibly your firmware could assign the bridge windows you need. Linux generally does not change window assignments unless they are broken. Bjorn
