> The PCI core is the correct place to handle MPS/MRRS because their> behavior is defined by the PCIe spec. >Quirks are the way to work around this defect in the Synopsys PCIe IP. > don't want it to make > maintenance of the generic MPS/MRRS code harder. Trying summarize ( every one must use separate quirk ) which file is right place for for meson_mrrs_limit_quirk() - pci/controller/dwc/pci-meson.c or - pci/quirks.c rewrited quirk just for meson: static void meson_mrrs_limit_quirk(struct pci_dev *dev) { struct pci_bus *bus = dev->bus; int mrrs, mrrs_limit = 256; static const struct pci_device_id bridge_devids[] = { { PCI_DEVICE(PCI_VENDOR_ID_SYNOPSYS, PCI_DEVICE_ID_SYNOPSYS_HAPSUSB3) }, { 0, }, }; /* look for the matching bridge */ while (!pci_is_root_bus(bus)) { /* * 256 bytes maximum read request size. They can't handle * anything larger than this. So force this limit on * any devices attached under these ports. */ if (!pci_match_id(bridge_devids, bus->self)){ bus = bus->parent; continue; } mrrs = pcie_get_readrq(dev); if (mrrs > mrrs_limit) { pci_info(dev, "limiting MRRS %d to %d\n", mrrs, mrrs_limit); pcie_set_readrq(dev, mrrs_limit); } break; } } DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_ENABLE(PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, meson_mrrs_limit_quirk); On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 12:57 AM Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 06:43:13PM +0200, Neil Armstrong wrote: > > On 07/07/2021 17:54, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 11:54:05AM +0200, Neil Armstrong wrote: > > >> In their Designware PCIe controller driver, amlogic sets the > > >> Max_Payload_Size & Max_Read_Request_Size to 256: > > >> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-meson.c#L260 > > >> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-meson.c#L276 > > >> in their root port PCIe Express Device Control Register. > > >> > > >> Looking at the Synopsys DW-PCIe Databook, Max_Payload_Size & > > >> Max_Read_Request_Size are used to decompose into AXI burst, but it > > >> seems the Max_Payload_Size & Max_Read_Request_Size are set by > > >> default to 512 but the internal Max_Payload_Size_Supported is set to > > >> 256, thus changing these values to 256 at runtime to match and > > >> optimize bandwidth. > > >> > > >> It's said, "Reducing Outbound Decomposition" : > > >> - "Ensure that your application master does not generate bursts of > > >> size greater than or equal to Max_Payload_Size" > > >> > > >> - "Program your PCIe system with a larger value of Max_Payload_Size > > >> without exceeding Max_Payload_Size_Supported" > > >> > > >> - "Program your PCIe system with a larger value of Max_Read_Request > > >> without exceeding Max_Payload_Size_Supported: > > >> > > >> So leaving 512 in Max_Payload_Size & Max_Read_Request leads to > > >> Outbound Decomposition which decreases PCIe link and degrades the > > >> AXI bus by doubling the bursts, leading to this fix to avoid > > >> overflowing the AXI bus. > > >> > > >> So it seems to be still needed, I assume this *should* be handled in > > >> the core somehow to propagate these settings to child endpoints to > > >> match the root port Max_Payload_Size & Max_Read_Request sizes. > > >> > > >> Maybe by adding a core function to set these values instead of using > > >> the dw_pcie_find_capability() & dw_pcie_write/readl_dbi() helpers > > >> and set a state on the root port to propagate the value ? > > > > > > I don't have the Synopsys DW-PCIe Databook, so I'm lacking any > > > context. The above *seems* to say that MPS/MRRS settings affect AXI > > > bus usage. > > > > It does when the TLPs are directed to the RC. > > That's a defect in the RC. > > > > The MPS and MRRS registers are defined to affect traffic on *PCIe*. If > > > a platform uses MPS and MRRS values to optimize transfers on non-PCIe > > > links, that's a problem because the PCI core code that manages MPS and > > > MRRS has no knowledge of those non-PCIe parts of the system. > > > > Yes and no, it only affects PCIe in P2P, in non-P2P is will certainly affect > > transfers on the internal SoC/Processor/Chip internal bus/fabric. > > > > > You might be able to deal with this in Synopsys-specific code somehow, > > > but it's going to be a bit of a hassle because I don't want it to make > > > maintenance of the generic MPS/MRRS code harder. > > > > I understand, but this is why these quirks are currently implemented in the > > controller driver and only applies when the controller has been probed > > and to each endpoint detected on this particular controller. > > > > So we may continue having separate quirks for each controller if the core > > isn't the right place to handle MPS/MRRS. > > The PCI core is the correct place to handle MPS/MRRS because their > behavior is defined by the PCIe spec. > > Quirks are the way to work around this defect in the Synopsys PCIe IP. > > Bjorn